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  anonymous | July 10th

Father and son dont get along

My partner has always taken the harsh approach with my son. He growled in his face to be quiet when he was a newborn and gave him his first smack before he was even a year old. He was always yelling at him to be quiet or shut up before he could talk even when he was making happy noises cos he says he cant drive with that noise. my son is three now and has speech disorder. He is an emotional boy and can get very angry. My partner who works away two weeks out of three will not listen to anything i say. He comes home and is greeted with hostility from our son. I tell him to just leave him and let him go to him but instead he tries to get him to play only to have son yell and get upset. partner continues to antagonise him. the other day my son fell over and my partner picked him up to comfort him but my son didnt want it from him, my partner sat down with him and continued to try and comfort, in return he recieved a smack from son so partner pushed son off his lap and made him land on the floor with a thump. Partner thinks he is justified in that  because son hit him. I dont know what to do anymore my partner will not listen to me or proffessionals and i cant do anything consistent with my troubled boy because his father comes home and ruins it all. any suggestions? My last resort is to leave his father but despite this i still love him and am desperately trying to find another solution.



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6ofus
July 18th | 6ofus
Re: Father and son dont get along

Your son is a scapegoat for your husband's anger.  A newborn baby cannot help crying and a toddler cannot help singing/chanting.  What is your husband really angry at ( what is underlying his anger at your son - what does your son represent to him-some past hurt from others/reminders of feeling powerless and threatened when he was a child and his parents were angry?/feeling threatened/overwhelmed?).  Discover what is underlying these irrational outbursts and you unlock the key to healing his past and getting him to stop using your son as a scapegoat for his OWN issues that MUST be healed for your family to be happy and survive.



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6ofus
July 18th | 6ofus
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Everything your partner and you say and do shapes who your son is today.  Your son's self esteem is crushed by your husband each time he treats him badly. If your husband can't stand up and lead the way in controling his anger and showing your son how to be calm, there is little hope for your son's self esteem and this will have a grim effect on who he becomes.  The damage has been done and it will take some time before your son learns a better way and will only be possible with calm, gentle role models.  Little children are easy to pick on- they are not as strong as an adult, so the adult will always win.  Yet this doesn't make your husband a hero.  Tell your husband if he can return to counselling and lead the way in being calm and gentle every time he's tempted to be out of control with his anger, THEN he will be your hero.  



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MrsSanders
July 12th | MrsSanders
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Hmm, o.k you are looking for a solution that may work for both the men in your life. You say that your partner will not listen to proffesionals, is that in an Adult context. Have you tried to get your men into the care of a child phsychologist who can work with both your son and your partner on their relationship.

I see that you care for both and are torn, yet in the end you may have to choose one above the other and I know in my heart that you will choose your sons welfare.

If I were you I would seek to get some help for your son to aid his troubles, then I would lay down a strict law to my partner that he co operates in that and seeks anger management therapy and faces it and deals with it in a serious manner. In the interim time if he still seeks to deal with your child in a harsh way he must leave the home till he feels he can respect your wishes on his approach.

I would also tell him that if he does not agree to this I will be taking the children and seeking the authorities help to protect your child from further emotional abuse.

There must be Womens help lines in your area. I would strongly advise you to phone them and relate your fears and worries about leaving and seek their guidence as to what your options are and how to claim for financial aid if the circumstances arise.

I wish you all the best, I know it is scarey to strike out on your own but you can and will manage if the circumstances dictate it.

Be strong and do use your minti net work to approach friends you feel comfortable with to seek support and a shoulder.

Hugs Winnie.xxxx



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      Melons
July 12th | Melons
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thankyou for your advice and non judgemental approach. much appreciated.



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carolynt2
July 11th | carolynt2
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im sorry to say but if you don't get away from your partner .you are going to have big problems with your son later on .i know because i was in the same situation 15yrs ago .and my kids have been affected by this .i know you love your partner but you have to think about what it  is doing to your wee man .if i can do it you can too be strong .and get as much support you can . before you leave your partner.



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wildice
July 11th | wildice
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Is he the biological father? Is there some underlying resentment there? What was your partner's childhood like? It may be hard to accept when you say that you still love him but the most important person in this triangle is your son. If you cannot leave your husband, perhaps you should consider alternative parenting options for your son for his own wellbeing. It was a comment made to me when my baby was a few weeks old - to make a choice between my child's father and my child - it really made me think and, yes, I did something about it. I left. It took a while but eventually the father figured out that it really was the best thing for the child.



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      Melons
July 11th | Melons
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yes he is his biological  son. He was treated much the same as a child, from what i know his mother was a right b****. we also have an 8 month old girl but he doesnt treat her the same. Our son was a difficult baby from the start, always crying never seemed to be happy and being first time parents we found it difficult to handle, my partner especially. Our daughter is an extremely happy baby, always has a smile for everyone including her dad infact i would go as far as saying she will be a daddy's girl. My partner thinks our son needs strict discipline for the way he is but he doesnt comprehend the fact that our son is that way becuase of him. I just need to try and make him realise that and see what he is doing. I'd hate to take our daughter away when she loves him so much. Of course my sons physical and emotional health is most important and if i have to leave for his sake i will. i just want to make sure i've exhausted every avenue. If my partner could just open his eyes and see and change what hes doing i think we could be a happy family. 



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           mystikal
July 11th | mystikal
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The thing is hun you can't make someone "open their eyes" they need to be able to say "I have a problem, and I need help with my problem." They need to be able to want to get help for themselves because they realise their behaviour is wrong and they want to change it. Even if he agrees to go to counselling just to get you off his back, he will not change. As his intentions are to just go to get you to be quiet. I can tell you why your partner behaves this way -because he feels that he is being rejected by your son. You need to put your foot down Melons and be able to give yourself a time frame "If my husband cannot accept his behaviour is wrong and get help for it by the end of August, I need to get out of here and give my son a better life." But once again - Don't keep waiting for something that isn't going to happen. You know, if children's services get involved they will take your son away from you as you haven't done anything to help him. That is the harsh reality. And if it gets any worse and your son gets bruises etc from his father you can be charged too.



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                Melons
July 11th | Melons
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I dont even know how to leave. we're buying a house together, he earns all the money, i dont even have any money of my own. i dont know where i would go.



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                               mystikal
July 12th | mystikal
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A mean and judgemental person wouldn't be here opening their heart for the well-being of your son. My comment was made in good faith. This will be my last comment I'm not interested in arguing.



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                                    Melons
July 12th | Melons
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i dont want to argue either i just thought you should know that your comment was hurtful not helpful.  



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mystikal
July 10th | mystikal
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I know your last choice is to leave the father but in saying that your first choice and priority should be your son's safety. Your son is behaving this way because of how his father treats him. Put yourself in your son's shoes, if someone constantly yelled in your face and smacked you for reasons you couldn't explain and then disappeared for 2 weeks, came back and wanted to play with you, would you honestly feel like playing with that person? Definitely not! Would you like to be comforted by the person who makes you feel scared and hurts you? Oh hell no. The first 5 years of your child's life is crucial it shapes and molds them for the future. I know you're looking to make things work out but the home truth is if your partner won't get help for his behaviour (and you've already stated professional help didn't work) nothing is going to change. And as Emmie said, each year your son gets older, the worse he seems to be treating him. You've done everything that you can and it isn't working. You can't change someone who doesn't want to change. If you don't get out and give your son the life he deserves he is going to end up hating you. Once again put yourself in your child's shoes, if your mother left you with a father who kept hurting you physicially and emotionally and put her husband before you, how would you feel? Would you want to know why your mother didn't help you, a poor innocent child who couldn't defend herself? Try some soul searching hun.




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      mystikal
July 10th | mystikal
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P.S - Next time your husband yells at your sun or tries to hit him ask him to sit his ass on the floor and stand over him and start yelling and threatening to hit him. This is what your child sees! Scary isn't it?



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emmie
July 10th | emmie
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I f im honest it sounds to me as if as your chiild is getting older the worse your partner seems to be treating him . You need to get out else it will only get even more worse . x



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