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blue-raven | August 2nd

Anti Depressants and motivation

Since comming off the AntiD's, I'm finding it really hard to be motivated to do anything. My only motivation seeems to be when I get really mad about it and do it. Mostly I give up in frustration. I'm thinking seriously about doing a detox diet to help rid my body of the tablets but I think it's screwed up my serotonen levels. I'm still not sleeping properly either. Does anyone know or have any ideas how to beat this? Is there herbal tablets I can take to help bring balance back. Before I started them I was a highly motivated person, now I can't even look at the housework let alone lose Chompers baby weight. I don't want to go back on the AntiD's as I have an inherent fear of becomming like my mum who takes so many meds it's not funny including AntiD's.
Thanks Minti world, I can't live like this anymore, I hate being like this and I feel the depression comming back. (I'm not sucidal, just sick of not being able to get motivated)
Cheers Raven

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mystikal
August 3rd | mystikal
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

It would also come down to how strong a dose of anti depressants you were on and for what reason. Some people are given low dosages to take the edge off depressed episodes and others don't respond well to increased dosages (mood disorders in particular) of Seretonin and need to balance it out with a mood stabilizer. Do you need enough to take the edge off an existing mood disorder or is it full-blown depression? So try before you buy if you get my drift.



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      blue-raven
August 3rd | blue-raven
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

I was put on anti depressants at my request 25 mths ago and have been off them for @ fortnight. The reason I went on them was because after I had my 3rd miscarriage, I had an emotional and pyhiscal breakdown to the point where I was going to start hurting myself again. My 2nd miscarriage I was physically punishing myself for losing the baby. I've suffered with depression all my life stemming from my parents genius parenting, sexual and physical abuse, school yard politics, the inability to trust anyone, lack of social and self esteem and not being able to real friends, drug abuse etc. The list pretty extensive and I have attempted to take my own life in various ways over the years, but not since I married my husband. I think it was said that I sufferred from general depression, trauma based depression ( my 2nd miscarriage was a disater from a surgical point view) and anxiety (which I do remember). I only wanted to be on them temporarily but then I got pregnant with Chomper and ended up being on them alot longer then planned but I needed them to get me through Chompers pregnancy and birth. I hope that explains it. Sorry it's long winded!

Cheers Raven



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kseers
August 3rd | kseers
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

Hi Raven! You've done a brave thing.  My general tips are:

o Make sure you get enough sleep and eat well - don't underestimate how much better that can make you feel
o Exercise - releases serotonin in the brain
o Plan simple things you enjoy
o Give yourself a regular routine to get you motivated to get out of bed
o Get outside - sunlight does huge things for your moods
o Ensure people contact - the simple impact of the human voice and eye contact, even when you don't want to be sociable, improves your situation dramatically.  If you are not feeling sociable, maybe ask someone to take you somewhere non-threatening where you don't have to make one-on-one contact but can at least just be around people.
o Don’t take on any major stresses or decisions
o Encourage yourself – remind yourself of the good things you have achieved today – however small.

Do you have someone who can help you at home, while you get sorted?  Do you have much family support?
 



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      blue-raven
August 3rd | blue-raven
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

I have to apologise, I left out the fact that I got into with my mum. We organised her to babysit while hubby and I went on a date nite to see transformers (which we rarely do). She decided not to do it at the last minute. It's not the first time she let me down but she's becoming increasingly unreliable and she blames it on her mental illness to which I do Q. She does have some issues but she has blown them out of portion (not the first time) and is on all the lastest meds she can get her hands on. Every so often she does this and it really drags me downand it's  becoming morefrequent. Hubby and I did get to see the movie but we took our nephews with us so they wouldn't miss out on seeing the movie as their other Aunt promised them but the movie closed before they'd have gotten to see it.

We organise it with her to suit her life and not to interfere with her life but it was obviously another one of her attention seeking tanny's. ( I recently told her that I was not giving her or my brother a run down of why they aren't talking to each other and that I wasn't gonna fix their problems either.)

I am gonna organize family support from my hubby's side of the family who are much more reliable.

Thanks for your advice, I'll try the fish oil and I'm seeing my doc in Sept after some blood tests for diabetes etc. I gonna push through, I've come this far, I mite as well keep going. I'm forcing myself to exercise and I have wii so that makes it more fun. I guess it's a matter of pressing in until I see the results I desire. I'll talk to my Doc about my iron levels too incase thats not helping. Theres not much I can do about my sleep until I loose the weight ( I have sciatatica (sp) an it's really painful but I don't take painkillers for it as I find I cope better with my kids without being doped up and I can't take some painkillers like padiene forte etc as I hullacinate on it (side effect of illicit drug use in my teen years). So my options are some what limited.

Thanks again, your advice has given me alot to think about and some pro active things for me to do.

Cheers and a grateful thankyou to you all!

Raven

P.s Hubby's sending me on a girls nite out thurs to Koorong bookstore. One of my most fav place to shop for all my music etc, which really picked my spirit up! Thanks our all wonderful! Cheers!



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      kseers
August 3rd | kseers
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

PS a random thought here, but have you had your iron levels checked?  I had a lot of similar issues after my daughter - PND, treated with medication etc... and just couldn't get going and this was a year later, so they did blood tests and put me on iron - helped me immensely but would only do so if you were anaemic.




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mystikal
August 3rd | mystikal
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

You may not be ready to come off meds but if you insist you want to do it without them then fish oil is a natural mood up-bringer and so is exercise and sunlight.



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diesel05
August 2nd | diesel05
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

Hi,

I suffered from low grade anxiety, and like you a serious lack of motivation.  I started taking St Johns wort, and it has helped me hugely.  I do longer have anxiety attacks about things, and I have my motivation back.  Finding the energy to do things like I used to before kids.

Wish you the best. Minti mail me if you want to talk more.



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admonsta
August 2nd | admonsta
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

Hi,

I've never taken anti depressants, but my entire family is affected by depression, and I've had a few bouts myself (undiagnosed).  I have a few thoughts, for what they're worth.

Firstly, it could take some time for your body to regulate itself after coming off the medication.  Depending on how long it's been, go easy on yourself and maybe give it more time.

My Dad took St John's Wort for a while, which is a herbal anti depressant.  I don't know about serotonin, but I have a friend who is Chinese, and when she was growing up her Mum gave her something called Don Quai, or its botanical name "Angelica sinensis".  Among many uses, this particular variety is used to regulate the body, especially women's hormones.  There's another herb called Maca, which is supposed to help regulate the body.

Maybe it would be better to speak to a naturopath about these, because I only know as much as I've written here.

My last thought is based on my own experience.  I think that when you are frustrated at your lack of motivation, you get less motivated.  It's helpful to start each day fresh, don't sweat the small stuff, and try to set yourself some really small targets.  Tell yourself that you'll do 15 minutes of something and that's all, and set a timer.  Often once you've started, the drive to continue builds.  Sometimes it doesn't.

Try going outside, sitting on the grass and enjoynig the sun and the breeze, even only for ten minutes.

I hope you feel better soon, I have felt something like you at times, and it's horrible.



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tdg1973
August 2nd | tdg1973
Re: Anti Depressants and motivation

You poor love, you sound as though you are suffering from a low mood.  If you don't want to take Antid's no one will force you, what I do suggest is that you continue to see your mental healthcare provider and discuss these issues with him/her.  Also you may have some sort of low grade infection, do you suffer from sinusitus or a sore throat, if so you may want to go to your gp and take penicillin and flagyl to clear up any infection, is your iron ok?  It also sounds like you may have waning self confidence - I can only talk of what I have read on Minti, but you seem to be an intelligent articulate compassionate woman. 

Good luck, keep ya chin up and going back on antid's is not the end of the world, although it may seem like it now, a chemical imbalance in the brain is really just the same as having diabetes, high blood pressure or a host of other deficiencies - you are obviously a strong person or you wouldn't be demanding so much of yourself!  Were you on them for a minimum of 5 years and have you been off them for a while?  I know when I came off the last dose, I became quite irate at everything and melancholy for about 2 or 3 mths.

 



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