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  anonymous | November 4th

Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

Four months ago I gave birth to a baby girl who was born 7 weeks early. She stayed in Intensive Care for 3 weeks because her lungs were undeveloped as most premmature babies lungs are. The hospital was very firm in the "no smoking" rule when we left the hospital, including smoke on clothes, hands, etc. I posted a sign on our door for visitors stating to wash hands, no small children & if you had smoked to please not handle the baby. This was my way of not making anyone feel they were being singled out. Mainly my mother-in-law.
As time went on I started to notice that she would smell like smoke when coming to visit and to mask the smoke smell she was covering herself in perfume. I started to notice my daughter would cough after her visits. Still trying to not hurt anyones feelings I called her after my daughter's two month checkup & said the doctor noticed "I" was wearing perfume & advised it probably was not smart to wear scented products around the premature baby. After that she continued to wear the perfume?? Point not taken I guess.
The latest problem is they do not want to drive the 40 miles from their house to ours to visit. So to keep peace I have loaded my daughter & half of our home up for the last few visits. I just think it is irrational to ask a couple with a newborn to drive 40 miles so they can spend time with their grandchild. If it's a burden for them to travel how do they think it is for a baby? She comes home cranky, tired, out of her routine & overstimulated from all the holding.
I have yet to let them babysit her mainly due to the smoking, I'm sure they would be many frequent smoke breaks while my daughter was there, as there are when we visit.
Recently we made one of our visits an overnight visit and the next day my daughter started showing signs of a cold. I told my husband that I spoke with her doctor and he advised to just watch her & also was very strong about no smoking. I told him he needed to call his mother and let her know we did not want her taking cigarette breaks anymore when the baby was around. Her response was she didn't believe her smoking was making the baby sick.
I too am a former smoker & believe in a smokers rights, but I also believe in the health of my child. When I WAS a smoker I didn't smoke around people who did not smoke out of respect & would have never considered smoking in the presence of a baby. I believe every parent has the right to raise their children as they see fit. Even though she chose to raise my husband in a smoking household 30 years ago, doesn't mean I think it's ok for our daughter now. New research shows that babies in smoking environments are at greater risk for SIDS, asthma, colds, ear infections, etc. I don't consider myself "overprotective" but I am protective. Am I being irrational or are my inlaws? Any opinions?

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LISA722
November 5th | LISA722
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

you are not being overprotective its natural even with non premmie babies

as a mother of a premmie bub myself i know what you mean

my mother in law doesnt like it when i say stuff like - you can hold her but you must wash your hands first

thats what she need to do anyway as she is a something or other i dont raelly know what she is called but is a garden specailist and plays in potting mix and fertilizers all day long expects to come around and hold a baby after doing that stuff all day long -I DONT THINK SO

but that is my choice and my right to say that as it is yours she is your baby and you do what you have to for her even if that means pissing her off - so to speak anyway

in any instance you get told about the increse risk of sids and other health issues in hospital with premmie babie and are given a number of different information packs before you leave

if you were given them or even still have them what i would do is on the next visit either to inlaws place or them to yours leave them in an open place where she can see them hopefully with them out she might get the bigger picture than



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cheekymonkeys
November 5th | cheekymonkeys
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

Hi there you are not being over protective of your daughter. She was born premmie so naturally common sense if your mother in law has any sorry to be so blunt should tell her that she is prone to more illnesses than a full term healthy baby. Does your mother in law understand anything about premmie babies and the differnce alot of things make when it comes to their health?? Maybe you could ask your local doctor to write you a note that says that no one is to wear perfume or especially strong perfume and that smoke on clothes etc..... is not good for your daughter. I know we cannot tell people what to do but you have your daughters best interest and health at heart. Your mother in law needs to meet you half way with everything especially the driving for visits. I would meet at a restaurant or somewhere that there is no smoking and have a meal and chat there. I myself smoke and try to limit how much i smoke around my children as i know this harms them breathing in the after smoke as i call it. I have tried to quit for my health and that of my children but it didnt work. I always wash my hands thouroughly after having a smoke and spray eucalyptus spray all around my house as well. I am not one to judge anyone about how they bring their child up. If you dont want you mother in law holding your daughter due to perfume and cigarette smoke  then that is up to you. Never lert anyone tell you that you are trying to dictate to others what they can and cant do as this is not the case. Your mother in law should also think about her grand daughters health and what dangers ther are for her when she is near smoke or strong perfumes. Maybe find a website if they have the internet and get your mother in law to have a read up on the differences there are between premmie babies and full term babies there is a large difference. This may help her to understand more about what harm she is doing than good. Each individual has there way of bringing their children up and i believe that no one should try to make anyone feel inferior for this. You do what is right for your daughters health and dont listen to anyone that tries to make it hard for you. If they do then i would suggest having a chat to try and get them to understand that life is different now than it was say 30 years ago there is a big difference. Ther are also too many toxins in the air that can affect us all than there was then as well. If i go to someones house and they dont smoke then i go outside for one or i dont have a smoke while i am there. My daughter does not smoke and she now has two children when i went to stay there i went outside for a cigarette then would wash my hands afterwards so that i could play with my grand children. Yes my clothes may have smelt of smoke but i think smoking outside helps as the smoke does not hang around as it does inside a house.

Good Luck with it all and hope your daughter stays well.

 



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Arna
November 5th | Arna
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

It is your right and your responsibility to do what you feel is right for your child, that much I agree with.  I also agree that you aren't being overprotective.

However, you can not tell your mother in law she can't smoke in her own home.  It is her space, not yours, and telling her she can't smoke just because you are there with your daughter is not right.  You go there knowing she is a smoker, so if you don't like it, stop going.

By all means, tell her you don't like her smoking at your place or smelling of smoke/perfume at your place, but you can't force her to stop because it is her right to live her life the way she pleases.  What you are able to do, is refuse her entry to your home.

The driving thing.  Yeah, it is easier for them to come to visit you, but there has to be some give and take on that too.  You can't expect them to come to you all the time, as they have their lives to live as well.

I'm interested in this perfume thing affecting your daughter though.  Would that mean no one would be able to use deoderant at all?  And what about cleaning chemicals?  They are more likely to cause irritation than perfumes.  Just curious, and think way too much



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      kkmom
November 6th | kkmom
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

 Thank you for your response. I agree with you 100% that I cannot tell my MIL what she can or cannot do, especially at her home. All I can do is let her know I don't like her smoking around my child, if she continues to do so then I think I'm justified in not visiting.

The perfume isn't really the issue. It's the amount. I myself wear a "lightly" scented deoderant and it doesn't seem to bother my daughter. It's the issue of covering the smoke with the perfume, she sprays alot on herself as she is getting out of the car after her drive to my home so the perfume is 1. very fresh 2. mixed with the smell of the smoke on her clothing. It gives ME a headache and I'm several feet away, the poor baby is laying on her shirt and being held by her for hours at a time so I can only imagine how she must feel. 

I think all in all we as parents feel we need to do what is right by our children. I respect her right to smoke if that is what she choses to do, but she should respect my right to keep my baby healthy and safe.



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      blue-raven
November 5th | blue-raven
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

Heavy perfumes and deoderants can irritate the bronchials causing wheezing and coughing plus asthma like symptoms.

Heavy cleaners like oven cleaners can do the same thing. Hubby used oven cleaner to clean our stove last night.....today I'm short of breathe and coughing a lot. I'm gonna open the house up once it warms up a little.

It's best use light cleaners like dishwashing liquid and disinfectants (light grade not heavy duty) to clean. Often I use dishwashing liquid to clean the floors.

Cheers Raven



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           Arna
November 5th | Arna
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

So they don't just recommend steam cleaning then which does the same job, is more environmentally friendly, more pocket friendly and doesn't help to breed super bugs?  I would have thought that it would be one of the first things they recommend around the house.  Can't live without my steam cleaner.



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blue-raven
November 4th | blue-raven
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

Thehealth of your baby is whats at stake. Your baby already has health issues, the last thing you want is to make them worse. If she can't stop smoking for a short period of time for the health of her grandchild then i would say that she can see the baby at all.

Smoking on premature lungs can result in  infections, asthma and asthma like ailments, cigerette smoke contains chemicals that reduce the amount of oxgyen in the body, this is not just limited to smoke from a lit cigarette but can breathed in from old smoke on clothing. Generally a healthy baby can tolerate old smoke but the lungs of a premature baby struggle with the chemicals. Their bodies simple can not with stand it. If she can't do whats best for the child then perhaps she shouldn't see the baby at all.

www.quitnow.au as great information  about the effects of smoking (and I still occasionly have one even though I know how awful it is!!!!), I think the US has a similar site but I don't know what it is but hopefully you will find something useful to give her. Having proof or evidence may help to change her behaviour.

Cheers Raven



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mango-mummy
November 4th | mango-mummy
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

Its your choice what the baby is sunjected to aye....

But maybe you could meet them half way, Literally... they dont wanna drive 40 miles and you dont... SO why dont you both drive 20 miles.. meet in a sshopping centre (becuase you cant smoke in the shopping centres) have lunch n all that

Thats if 20 miles isnt too far.. im aussie so i have no idea how far 20 miles is lol



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      zoolooau
November 4th | zoolooau
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

 Well if you go 20 miles a hour you will get there in a hour...... hehe that was stupid im sry :)



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      blue-raven
November 4th | blue-raven
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

about 40ks according to hubby!!!!

Raven



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Izzy
November 4th | Izzy
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

NO! You're not being over protective... or at least you're only being as protective as your daughter need you to be.  I have 2 year old twin girls that were born 6 1/2 weeks early. They were lucky in that they only spent 10 days in the NICU and they didn't need to be intubated.  But that said, they still have lung problems. They are prone to asthma. Every time they get a cold, it results in wheezing and coughing and I have to put them on the nebulizer. Winter is extremely hard on us, especially their first winter. Preemies have a higher risk of RSV and they did come down with it, though mild because they were getting RSV shots. Those shots alone was a challenge in itself. I had to take my twins to the pediatrician every 28 days for their shot, for 6 months.

You already see that the smoke from your in-laws body/clothes is causing your baby to cough. Do what you need to do. Stick to your conviction because you're on the right. When your baby gets sick, it is hard on her and on you...no one else. You're the one who will be dealing with sleepless nights and endless worries.

I would even suggest that you stop taking it upon yourself to drive the 40 miles, especially over the winter....in this flu season. The more you take your child out, the more likely she is exposed to a lot of things. This is not to say you must be anal about cleanliness, but you need to be anal about who touches your child. 

Hang in there. Stick to your guns and listen to your gut. You do not need to please anyone because your first priority is your baby. You are not doing anything that is rude, so you're doing just fine. You will not always have to be this way, but while she's young you need to do what you need to do.



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Rukia
November 4th | Rukia
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

you r not over protective. I refuse to allow my mum to see my kids cause she refuses to not smoke around my kids.

Also the 40 mile thing is a cop out sorry.

My in laws live about that distant from us (hubby said that is about 60km) and they come and see us every sunday for 30 mins and then go and see the other grandkids too.

good luck in getting her to do what you want with your baby.



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muma2b
November 4th | muma2b
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

No no no NO you NOT over protective, you are a NORMAL mother that wants the best for her child, we had a few probs with our sons lungs also when he was born so we are what some people call 'over the top' when it comes to smoking.

My husband is a smoker, he smokes at work and once our son is in bed so that he never gets the second hand smoke, when he gets home from work he showers straight away and uses aquiem gel (antibacterial gel) - These lungs problems also happened with my now teenage sister so i took my son to her pediatrision; he said that to even smoke out side and then come inside and wash your hands can still affect your baby. As you said second hand smoke can contribute to SIDS, ashtma and even ear infections!!!

As for complaining about driving 40 miles, personally I find it a little strange (as my parents drive or fly (depending on prices) 2400km to see my son; we have made the trip also a few times but its unrealistic for any parent to have to travel any distance if it is an inconvenience for them or if they find it uncomfortable, it takes a while to get into routine of being a mum if you dont feel up to traveling then simply dont, perhaps yous can meet half way at a park for lunch???

Perhaps you could write your in laws a letter or have a good sit down chat with them and explain things to them one more time. Good luck



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mystikal
November 4th | mystikal
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

No way are you being over protective. Any mother of a new born and in particular a little premmie who needs extra special attention and care would have done the exact same thing in your position.

  • Her perfume wearing when visiting the baby is not on. If she wants to wear it, then she can't visit.
  • Driving 40 miles with a new born, in particular a premmie is ridiculous. Please say no to that option in the future which I'm sure you will.

Where is she taking her cigarette breaks? This is a difficult one to question because she's going to smell like smoke regardless of whether she has a break or not if she has been a long time smoker. And she's still going to have nicotine on her finger tips if she has been smoking for a long time too which isn't going to come off with soap and water.



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zoolooau
November 4th | zoolooau
Re: Are my in-laws out of line or am I overprotective??

 No you are not over protective, i dont let people smoke around our children. (they go outside) Actualy i didnt let them do it when i was pregnant lol. Tho they go outside to smoke anyway, they go right out the back if we are outside as well.

Is ok if smokers want to kill them selves but no one else needs to breath it.

And how can they say its not affecting the baby. what do they think happens in a burning house, smoke inhalation!!!!!

Just common sence really lol



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