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nomes
nomes | May 2006

4 year old tormenter

I have a wonderful 4 year old boy and a wonderful 22 month old girl. The boy, well, he's a boy. He loves rough housing, which I am told is normal and ok as long as the male role models get involved and teach them the boundaries as well as me. I have hit a brick wall in regards to him tormenting his sister. (and I haven't hit it with him) I have tried so many different (pain free) methods to explain to him why he can't push her, bash her, wrestle her, smother her, run her over with her pram but I can't seem to make it stick. anyone with advice please let me know a way I might be able to tackle this. Rather than me explaining everything I have tried, just send those ideas on and I'll sift through the ones I've already tried.cheers.

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wombat68
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2006 | wombat68
Need to discipline him appropriately

Not much point trying to explain why he shouldn't do what he's doing, because psychologically he isn't capable of sympathising with others.  CHildren only develop that skill when they reach 7 to 8 years old.  Before that, they are primarily egotistical.  You can only deal with it by disciplining the bad behaviour.  Warning then Timeouts.  There are a muber of articles on MINTI about discipline.

My advivce is you should exclude your son when he behaves badly.  Social punishment is the fairest and best form of discipline. If you are not using this technique, you are probably being too soft.  I would discipline rough behaviour immediately with a warning and then a time out.  I have a 6 year old son and a 2 year old daughter, so I know and deal with the scenario everyday.

Read the article on Minti and elsewhere about discipline and timeouts and I am sure you can sort out the behaviour.  Just remember that he won't understand why it's wrong yet.  Just make him understand that if he does it, he will be disciplined.

Wombat



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      nomes
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2006 | nomes
Re: Need to discipline him appropriately
We have started a consistent and calm approach.  I tell him if he doesn't stop, he will go to the thinking corner(thanks Super Nanny).  He is going to that corner less and less.  It certainly does work.  I have only been doing this method for two days......consistently.  We have always used time out and other threats, but don't always follow through.  Now that we are consistenly following through on all our threats(taking things away or sending him to time out) he is now beginning to behave.  Thanks wombat for the reminder about our young children's level of understanding.  I'm a happier mum now, and less headaches....from yelling(I know, big bad)


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wildrose
3.71 (Good) | May 2006 | wildrose
Sibling is not a toy
I have 4 yo boy and 1 yo girl. There were times that my boy played a little bit too rought to my girl. When the warning to him didn't work, I'd talk to him and said:
A. 'is your sister a toy?', he'd answered 'no'. and I would explain to him why he should be gentle to her, 'Your sister is not a toy, if you play too rough to her, she might get hurt or even worse she might break her  bone and if that happened we couldn't fix her. She's not like a toy that we could fix or buy a new one at the shop'  or,
B. sometimes I would say 'Would you like if someone play rough (or do the things that you did to your sister to you) with you?' and he would say 'No'. Then I would say 'so, why did you play rough with your sister?', he would say 'I don't know'. Then I'll explain, 'We don't want your sister to grow up to be a rough girl, so how if you play gentle to her so she would play nice to you too.'

I'm sure you knew he probably done those just to seek more attention from you. Good luck!


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      nomes
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2006 | nomes
Re: Sibling is not a toy

Thank you for your input.  I feel that he does gets enough attention from me.  I tried your suggestions, and he said he wanted to break her.  I have explained to him why she is screaming at him and that she doesn't like to play that way, and he says sorry, cuddles her, and just does it again later.  I know he doesn't mean it, and he is not a psycho child, but he certainly wants to be different.  He does appear to say and do things that he knows is going to get a reaction out of me.  I'll keep trying.  Maybe I should spend less time explaining his wrong doing and concentrate on comforting Alyssa.  I just don't want to seem like I am trying to isolate or exclude him.  I have asked him if he likes to be pushed all the time, and he said no.  He still can't grasp the concept of caring for other people's feelings.  hopefully he'll get it soon.  he really is such a lovely boy.  I guess that is why it seems so much more frustrating.



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           wildrose
3.94 (Good) | May 2006 | wildrose
Re: Sibling is not a toy
Oh dear. I hope he just goes trough some jealousy stage that will goes away soon. I'm sure he does love her sister. Maybe you could try to make himself busy without hurting his sister. Try to get his mind away, such as drawing, listening to music, do building stuff with lego, take to the park or other thing that you have in mind. Good luck!


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                Anonymous Member
2.50 (Average) | May 2006 | anonymous  
Re: Sibling is not a toy
sounds like you are in for a rough period


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