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  anonymous | December 2006

What should my friend do?

I have a best friend whose life as she knew it was shattered on Christmas Eve of all days.
This is probably a little dramatic but she found her husband surfing porn  and enjoying it (if you know what I mean) in the middle of the night.
She is absolutely devestated and feels hurt and betrayed by him for doing this.  She confronted him at the time and he said he wasn't doing the other and that he had only been looking at it for 30 seconds, this isn't the first time she has caught him surfing it, but it is the first time for the other action.  He swore the last time that he wouldn't do it again, but alas didn't hold to his word.
She has said that he broke her heart with this action and he has begged her to give him another chance so he can fix this problem.
Should she try to hold onto her marriage and family and hope it can be worked out and the feeling of betrayal go or should she kick him to the curb?
Her problem is that she has gained a bit of weight and doesn't have much self esteem and to find this has really kicked her.

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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Deborahsc2203
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my partners dont it also , it dosent bother me at all , men are differnt from women , as long as he brings it to the room i say go for it ,, hey hes at home doing it ,, its not abnormal for a man to look it up and it dosent mean he dosent desire you either its a man thing , you should kick a man to the curb for doing that ,, then we might all be single its normal


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teztez
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | teztez
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my parnter look at porn ever night i dont like  but what else can u do look at it this way as long as there at home and not any  else  i think it just a man thing


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shartay
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | shartay
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I think she should just sit and have a chat with him and let him know how she feels and that if he is goin to do it plz dont do it when she is around as everyone has said this is a man thing and if my man did it good on him if they enjoy it let them go atleast you know where they are and that they arent goin else where to look at it.


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Cristlyn
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | Cristlyn
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i totally agree with u peachy theres no sense of fighting about it all males do hey  even sum females do it to


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      peachynowamum
December 2006 | peachynowamum
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would not be human otherwise lol


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Cristlyn
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | Cristlyn
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hi there my husband does it i think ts a male thing and  it doesnt worrie me couse i know where he is as long he at home doin it   but yes some girls do find it hard to deal with  i did first but i said to my self at least at home and no where eles and not cheatin on me


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Marlena
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | Marlena
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I hope I do not affend anybody with my opionon on the whole situation.  I know ever one has there beliefs.  I personally couldn't care less  if my boyfriend looks at porn, he is probably looking at it right now.  The reason why I dont care is because I know where he is, he isn't out looking at another women and cheating on me.  I know if I told him he couldn't he would just do it behind my back, it is built into there brains, they are men.  I would rather my relationship be out in the open instead of us doing things behind each others back.  There are far worse things that he could do.  I myself have lost my breasts from breast feeding and I hate getting naked infront of my boyfriend, It does upset me when he looks at those big breasted women but all I say to him if your gonna look at porn look at small breasted women LOL.  I myself wouldn't kick him to the curb but thats my opinion. 


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jaskat
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | jaskat
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As I said in my comment I didn't mean to offend anyone with my opinion, but as I was reading this question, I couldn't help but feel or think what if it happened to me, and how it would make me feel finding my husband/partner of 15 years surfing porn  to fulfill some need he had, and it made me feel sorry for the wife in catching him out, then reading comments trivializing it, made me feel even worse for the wife, as I said we probably don't have the full story, but this couple should seriously think about counselling and I hope they manage to fix their problems.  Good luck to them both.


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peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
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I think this discussion is great... It is how a discussion should be... We all express our ideas and opinions... then we take in what each other has to say and re-evaluate our opinions... And the more we talk the closer we get to discovering a real solution for this girl... good on you everyone for being so mature about a topic such as porn... this is one of the reasons i love minti so much...

I still think there is nothing wrong with a bit of porn... but I have acknowledged this is about trust and self esteam... And this couple needs counseling



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      angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | angelmum
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Thats right Peachy, thats what a question is all about getting everyones different views and then weighing it all up to make your own decision, how boring would it be if we all had the same opinion.  I am quite sure we have all helped, maybe this question on porn should be in get to know me better group lol


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           peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
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lol true guess we have no secrets here in minti


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jaskat
4.19 (Good) | December 2006 | jaskat
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I think that some of you people have made this woman feel probably the same way her husband felt when confronted, some people have said that she should snap out of it and get over it after all it's just porn.  It all depends on each individual, no-one has considered that she might have high standards as far as morality goes and feels that her husband shouldn't have to go surfing the web and that he should just need her. I think that his surfing is a form of cheating on his wife and it would do one's self esteem in to find this event and she will quite probably question every time she does anything intimate with him if it's her that he's enjoying or if it's what he has seen on the web that's giving him his jollies.  There is also the whole trust issue, there is no mention of how long they have been together, but I assume it could have been a while as it says something about family, they could have been together for years for all we know, but in his act in the middle of the night he has completely broken her trust, especially after promising her he wouldn't do it again and then get caught in the act.  You do have to question if he has been doing it more often than the once, and I think she will be questioning the frequency of his visits.
I don't intent to offend anyone with my comment, but I feel sorry for the wife in the bashing she recieved from other people's comments, everyone is welcome to their opinion and what they believe, but some people made the husband the victim.  Either way. no one but this couple know the full story and I feel sorry for the both of them, they need some form of help in their relationship if they are still together in building up broken trust.


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      angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | angelmum
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I agree, It says she has gained a bit of weight and has self esteem isues, so whether you think porn is fine or not.  When you have low self esteem you boyfriend/husband just looking at another woman is like his cheating.  I had this with my husband years ago, I had very low self esteem and anything he did made me feel low.  He also started looking at porn, he wasn't getting much from me so I don't blame him but at the time it was to me like he was cheating, I asked my hubby to stop and he also did it behind my back and broke my trust.  But it is in no way a reason for a relationship to break up or suffer, my hubby stopped when I broke down and explained to him exactly how it was making me feel how low my self esteem was and how this was making it worse.  He had no idea how it was affecting me and he stopped and believe me I watched him like a hawk, its called respect for you partner.  Its not about what people think about porn, its about this womans feelings and how it is making her feel.   So I think this poor girl really needs to sit down and have a good deep conversation with her husband on everything she is feeling.


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | breannababy
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I don' think this woman was bashed,maybe we did trivialize the porn side of it.But most of us openly stated that the lying was not condoned at all.You are right we are all entitled to our opinion,baring this in mind when you post a question on minti you have to be prepared for some answers that you just might not like.I loved all the different answers and think it gives a lot of scope to some possible solutions for this minti surfer.You bring up some very valid advice thankyou regards Merle


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Dawn
3.00 (Average) | December 2006 | Dawn
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My suggestion would be for your friend to get herself and her husband professional help ASAP! When a person is hiding what they are doing and making promices that they will never do it again, you can be sure that they will! Porn is a disgusting display of raw  violent sexual toward women! watching it is an addiction and as with any addicton the addict needs help! I hope your friend is not blaming herself for a bit of extra weight that she may feel has sent her husband into this world! This is not something that any women should live with! Ted Bundy is a perfect example of what happens to a normal person who after living the fantasy of porn, turns it into a reality! The reality of Ted Bundy's life is that he had loving paents and siblings, was never abused, and was well respected in his community! He was weak minded and the alochol he consumed gave him the courage to rape and murder women and young girls! I am not saying that your friends husband is a "Ted Bundy" in the making, but hard core porn does nothing but use women in the worst way possible! And if this man cannot stop watching, then there is a very serious problem for which I would be very concerned! Talk to your friend and get her to get her husband and herself help soon! Her husband has a very sick addiction and needs help now!


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      Dru
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | Dru
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Who is to say that this guy is "addicted" to the porn... the best thing that I believe that they can do is talk about it and take it from there.

There seems to be alot of conclusions being jumped to here, I may also be guilty of that myself... but it really sounds like some communication would go along way between them, sort out the trust issues and then deal with the porn and how it makes the friend feel that the husband looks at it...

Not trying to run any one into the ground with this comment......



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      peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
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you know she did not say wether or not it was hard core porn... It could have been soft porn... but you do make a good point...


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           emmysmum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | emmysmum
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soft porn is nothing....some porn is tasteful.....or perhaps Artful might be the better word....if you get what i mean! And whilst i am not for porn and am not promoting it, i am not completely against it!
OH and in some porn not all women are completely naked!


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | nell18-3
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I agree totally with all those who have said it is a trust issue.
This whole problem is not about PORN at all it is about the trust not being there in a relationship.
If two consenting adults use porn together to spice up their life that is their choice and their lives, however if one partner is using porn behind the back of the other partner, this is wrong.
I was on the receiving end of this myself,  I don't like porn myself, however if others want to that is up to them, I don't stand on judgement on anyone. However my ex got into it and along with the abuse it is what ended our marriage, I was forced, co erced into things I did not like and was even told afterwards what was the problem I look on it as hatemaking anyway, all as part of the abuse.
I could not live like this, in fact it nearly killed me, if my parents hadn't realised something was up and stepped in 12 months ago I would not be here today.
So, my point is, if in your relationship you enjoy PORN together then good for you, however if it is done in secrecy then beware, something is very wrong and you should rethink your whole relationship.


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      breannababy
4.04 (Good) | December 2006 | breannababy
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Hi Helen and Deb, don't get me wrong I mite like porn,but I don't condone lying at all so on the trust thing I agree with everything.I was under the opinion she just walked in on the poor dude spanking the monkey,he was probably as shocked as her LOL I just assume that this is an issue bought up before a serious relationship/marriage.I also never condone violence in any form any where,just to make sure you all know this.I think anything that happens sexually between a couple should be comfortable to them both.I also think that Robi 's comment below was a great piece to read and I agreed with him on quite a few points,I was disappointed that people rated him and others down.....I don't know I try to keep an open mind on all opinions even If I don't agree with them.Maybe I just don't get the rating/vote thing.Any way I guess we now know on minti who likes porn and who doesn't LOL


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           peachynowamum
5.00 (Excellent) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
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welll i guess there r no secrets on minti lol


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blackwidowkate
3.81 (Good) | December 2006 | blackwidowkate
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Hi
Sorry but I value trust and truth above all
If my hubby looks at porn i am ok with it within reason We look at some together
But if he lies to me then there is something wrong with our lives and our marriage
To me a lie to someone means i don't love you
I don't respect you
All relationships are different but why does he need to be doing what he was doing then deny it at midnight while his wife is asleep?????
Doesn't this then lead to things like cyber sex etc......
Secrets are not good in a relationship They lead to distrust and more
If you don't lie you don't have to remember stuff
This is only my opinion
How many chances do people need before it is too late
He told his wife i wont do it no more
Luv Deb


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      peachynowamum
3.74 (Good) | December 2006 | peachynowamum
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i m with you on this one deb.... But in some respect you need to look at the bigger picture... like why does he do it behind her back in the first place... is she so dead against porn that he feels he cant tell her about it... or is he afraid that she will think too sick and disgusting to look at it together... or is he ashamed of himself... I still think lookng at porn is fine but... yes you r right he did lie... the question is why...



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Robif
4.30 (Good) | December 2006 | Robif
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Sorry all you femmes - I disagree with most of you.

PORN IS MAN TORN.

 I know because I suffered from this addiction too, having working as a photographer in a Federal Dept involved in the early 70's when porn was banned in OZ. I was only in my early 20's when introduced to porn through photographing contraband confiscated for viewing if needed in court. The effect that porn had on my life and mind at that time and in the future was disastrous.

The whole thing about Porn is it degrades women. It's about lust and not love. It's about satisfying me above you. It is a selfish degrading act on women and it's power to destroy relationships and maybe even end in violent abuse cannot be underestimated.

If you partner is delving into porn I would be worried ladies. All the reasons/ excuses you hear for them doing it are just that, excuses, and cannot justify a wrong action. Marriage is meant to be monogomous. Marriage vows hold onto this principle quite clearly.

My first marriage was affected greatly and even eneded due to my delving into porn before and during marriage. The act of making love became the act of having sex. There is a difference between the two. The latter relies on self-gratification and the former on selfless gratification where pleasing the other partner through loving and kind actions is paramount.

Porn encourages the participants to perform for the other rather than conform to the other.

No matter what you believe it is certain that with porn, whether light core or hard core, you parnter is fantasizing about someone other than you. That is adultery if you're married and cannot be healthy for a lasting, respectful and trusting relationship. I find it hard to comrehend that anyone can condone their partner fantasizing about another and expect their marriage/ relationship to endure.

Unfortunately porn addiction is like any other addiction - the user just wants more and is never satisfied. Often, and sadly, soft porn leads to harder porn and harder porn to violent porn. A point in case: There was a mass serial killer in US called Ted Bundy who had violently killed, raped and cut up at least 22 women. He was a well respected member of his community, a lawyer, attended church where he was an elder, had a loving wife [ignorant to his porn background] and chidlren.  Bundy was a man leading two lives. In one he was the well respected man about town and in the other was a hard and violent porn addict, often living out his fantasizes with prostitutes. But as mentioned before enough is never enough in porn and he had to turn from watching violent skin flicks to actually doing them 20 times  or more on young innnocent women. Ted Bundy was a monster created by porn.

On his last tapped conversation before his death, on death row, Bundy was adamant that porn had created the monster he had become. He was brought up in a well balanced and loving household but at an early age was exposed to soft porn through magazines that a neighbour frequently left in bins outside his home. Of course he kept his magazines secret from his family and as he grew into his teens developed an appetite for harder porn. His flest could not be satisfied and he looked at many ways he could do this. He frequented brothels and got into all kinds of sordid behavious with the prostitutes. And so it lead to death of the women, end of his marriage/ family and himself.

Bundy was allowed to conduct a survey of prisoners in death row who had perpetuated violent crimes against women. He discovered that in almost 100% of cases the men involved had been at some stage and mostly still involved with porn up until their capture. Bundy was adamant that porn should be banned from our society as  he believes it degrades women and leads to violent sexual behaviour.

Ladies, if  your partner is involved in porn, he needs help. It is not the end of your relationship but it should not be tolerated by you. However, it is an addiction and is not easily given up by the one dependant on it. Therefore professional help is imperative for the frequent user. 

I myself have been fighting the urge to return to porn for years  and years . After it devastated my first marriage i have made it my goal to not return to it. However the WWW is deadly for this as it is so easily to stumble into by accident. Try putting the word 'pussy' cat into google and see what comes up. Think about this as your kids might put in the same word quite innocently too. The effects of porn on young minds cannot be underestimated. Please consider net nanny's if your kids have access to the WWW because they'll eventually stumble into a porn site in their surfing. Let's just hope that it doesn't create a Ted Bundy.

My recommendation is put the word 'anti-porn' into google and read the wonderful sites around the world to fight porn.

 



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      MadMel
2.14 (Poor) | December 2006 | MadMel
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Fantastic. I withheld putting in my opinion as it seemed everyone else was the opposite. I totally agree. It is degrading to women, a dusgusting habbit. Who wants someone that watches porn to be around their children ... ? NOT ME!
What happens if your child walked in to see that???? NOT COOL!
I say either he STOPS all together and you go get councelling as he LIED to you, OR you kick his ass to the curb!


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      OzBinky
3.45 (Average) | December 2006 | OzBinky
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I fully understand what you are saying and I had never thought of it like that...and I really do thank you for posting you opinion as It has opened up my eyes to a different perspective. My only issue that I have is that it isn't like that for everyone. You have those with intimacy problems, those who enjoy looking at it as a couple, those who are plain outright curious and those who are trying to find ideas to spark a new dimension in their relationship.

Although I do agree with you that porn can contribute to breakdowns in relationships and as you mentioned it can have awful repercussions on an individual at many levels, not to mention being degrading to women at times, again I think that is based on the individual accessing it.

Addictions are a funny thing, no matter what it is. Not everyone becomes addicted to the things they are introduced to though. I have accessed porn in my life as I'm sure many have. I know my husband did on occasion too. For the most I would say it was because he was more curious about what was out there on the 'net more than he needed to see it for what ever reason. He never watched movies, brought magazines or read porn books, however, he did occasionally look on the 'net.

Like most things I really think it is a personal preference and it can only be acceptable when it is not hurting or degrading another. I don't take offense to pornography personally, as a woman or as a wife. I do have issues with the style and ages that are promoted but for the want of a better term, classic pornography I don't have issues with myself.

In saying this though, I would also roll over and die if it was my daughter doing it. My issues are mixed but I admit to this. Thank you for opening eyes to things I would not have considered though.....Cheers!


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      breannababy
3.40 (Average) | December 2006 | breannababy
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Hi there, it is great to hear a males view.I respect your opinion.....buttt,I think in a lot of situations porn is fantastic in the bedroom(from a womens view point) I have loved porn since I was sexually active (18) I have not nor  will I or any of my past or present husbands enjoyed any form of violent porn.As for taking advantage of women.....My previous employers in a semi-normal job (not porn) took advantage on a daily/hourly basis.What I am saying is that all of us get taken for a ride in all forms, not just the sex industry (they are even on a higher rate)I will agree though sex/porn can be a form of an addiction.I do not make light of this at all.I am just saying normally porn can be a healthy facet of a marriage.My previous marriage broke down from alcohol not porn(just setting the record straight)OH he was the lush not me LOL. Any way maybe I do have a problem.........Nahhhh I can still see and walk straight. Have a top new year regards Merle


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Angelv701
3.05 (Average) | December 2006 | Angelv701
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I agree with breannababy  LOL   ssssooooooo FUNNY   men look up porn all the time  at lest its safe & they r at home  with you   & not  try to get it  ..... you needed to trust your partner  ....even ask him & dont  leave it because the more u leave it the more work up u will be  .....   good luck     .........    OMG>>>>>>... i know a friend (men) looks up the sites   ......  LMBO  .....


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breannababy
3.24 (Average) | December 2006 | breannababy
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I really think your friend may not have felt so betrayed if she had higher self esteem.I know now I have gotten larger I would be a bit more inclined to feel unhappy over the porn stuff.Where as before I would have jumped right into the action.Men often don't see us the way we see ourselves so don't really understand our selfconciousness especially when it changes our view on issues such as porn.I think your friend could use this as a little motivation to lose some curves and even just tone up a little......take some notes off said porn sites and do a little homework with hubby,knock his socks off yeah baby yeah!(love austin powers) If she is really that offended by the porn I think she should give him some private time with his hobby(if she can't join in)I don't believe in censoring adults it goes against my grain and I think we are entitled to make our own choices as long as we are not harming others,I think if he is doing this privately he is not hurting any-one.If the porn is interfering with their sex life by all means(not wanting sex with her)then it is detrimental to their marriage so has to be more seriously addressed.Good luck regards Merle


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ahimsa
4.07 (Good) | December 2006 | ahimsa
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Well at least its safe sex, no chance of a std or whatever. Maybe its just that they both have differing sex drives?? If he is using it as a way to let a bit of presure off and not hassel her all the time for sex if shes not into it, anyway its better than jumping the fence. If its a addiction and he at the porn as a prefered option then there is a prob. Better she talk to him than treat him like a school boy.........maybe she could tell him he will go blind.......just a thought.