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Hitting Back
Hi guys,
My mum told me its time to teach the boys to hit back when other kids hit them first. I am acomfused about whether its the right thing to do.
My sister was picked on her whole school life cos she never hit back. however my sister and I always did and we had no problems. . .
It seems like it worked for us but I feel bad about it. What do you all think?
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Hitting Back
This is an issue that divides people, I for one applaude what you have said and will mark you accordingly because having been there and done that I know what you are saying to be quite true. Duty of care means we have to provide a safe environment for all students and at times it seems an almost impossible task an no I am not shirking my responsibility Im merely pointing out that there are some kids who simply need to be suspended for the safety of others, serious physical violence used to be a high school problem but it is filtering down into the primary school and yes kindergarten, imagine the kindergarten bully in 7 + years. Suspension is all we have short of exclusion (expulsion) and to exclude a student is extremely difficult almost impossible these days. Teachers go to work to teach, its the only job I know where they are expected to combine 30 or more often unwilling participants in one room and accept being sworn at, spat on, things like chairs being thrown at them as all part of their job. Yes this is worse case scenario but its becoming the norm and I have put myself between two fighting year 7 boys and I have been punched in the stomach and although I was told I shouldnt have done that I would do it again because I dont believe violence is the answer, I believe there are other ways to handle most situations sometimes its successful sometimes not just like in life, there are lots of ways to bully proof your kids so they dont become bullied or bullies themselves but that takes time to develop also. You can try reading All about Bullying ISBN 0340779012. If we show tolerance for bullies and their actions then we are sending a very frightening message which is why schools have a no tolerance policy but apart from suspension there isnt much left that school can do, detention doesnt work they dont care and often will just walk out as if you're invisible, kids today are very different and no I dont have the answer which is why I am watching this discussion with interest.
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Hitting Back
My son,, now 9 has had trouble with bullies since kindy. Yes since kindy. He would come home from school with bruses around his neck, shirts ripped, blood noses, black eyes you name it he's had it. Any way the school arranged meeting for myself and the other childrens parents and I have to say they didnt care, my experience is that the bullys have bullys for parents that is where they learn it from, any way after 4 years of this we got a personal trainer for our son and he taught him to box. The best money I ever spent, he also taught him disapline, self confidence and when to and not to use his boxing tools.
One day at school my son was so badly beaten He was rushed to hospital he had a broken nose, a black eye, a broken collar bone and a dislocated shoulder he was found unconsious on the school oval, this was all done by a group of 8 year old from his class and when the police asked why they did it they said "because his little sister is a spastic" My daughter suffers from epilepsy and is hearing impared she is 2.
When he recovered and he now knew why they were picking on him all the time I told him If they hit you again You can only throw one punch use the skills you have learned but make sure it is only one punch.
Well he was back at school for 2 days and I recieved a phone call from the school and one of those boys had punched him in the stomach during sport so he did what I said One good punch while all the other kids were watching. Sure he got suspended for 2 days, as he should he hit someone but they all seen him hit the leader of the bully group . Now they tread very carefully.
So I would say yes, tell them to hit back(within reason) but only if they are hit first and if your going to get suspended from school make it a good one because it may only be the chance you get.
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Hitting Back
My personal belief is that there is never an excuse for violence, having said that if you find your child in this situation let the school know, have a meeting with the principal and as many teachers as possible that come in contact with your child. Its not just the physical stuff you have to know and be concerned about. I have two sons who have had their fair share of scraps my advice was to take it off the school grounds, if it happens on the school grounds then the kids are generally suspended, the police can and do at times come to the school to warn the offending students and can charge them with assult. I think it is less likely to come to that if its away from the school, boys will fight then will often shake hands and walk away. If you are going to go down the path of stick up for yourself make sure that your child does not take that to be permission to carry a weapon such as a knife, if they do then they have intent to harm not self defence, unfortunately kids who are victims of bullying feel they have no alternative, this concerns me more and more when I see debate on this issue, if you want to meet with the other kids parent have the school organise and supervise the visit. If they are (and I sincerely hope that no school would) be reluctant to assist you with resolving the issue you can calmly state that if they refuse to assist you you will take out an Avo, this will most likely get some quick attention, they cause a huge problem in schools. Whatever you do you have to be prepared to follow through, remain calm at all times, take notes of who you spoke to and when, keep your notes factual and unemotional and always have a witness where possible.
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