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portugreek
portugreek | January 2007

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Ok...here it goes.  I've got a friend, Jenny, who has two boys--Tayler, 8yrs and Cameron 6yrs.  Jenny used to babysit her friend's children and charge them 30$ a day to have them.  Then Jenny got a job and would call me once in awhile to watch her children...no biggie.  Her husband (the boy's step-dad) would normally watch them.  Normally she would have her 12 yr old neighbor watch her boys afterschool and pay her to do so and I occassionally would watch them when that neighbor had other plans.  Now recently, as in the past 3 months, Jenny has been phoning me DAILY to watch her boys because they've moved now and her husband cannot control them and doesn't want to watch them anymore.  So...good ole me has taken them.  I've never charged her for watching them, but she has never offered to give me any money.  I pick them up from school and feed them when they get here.  It's just becoming more and more hard as my lil one is growing up (she's 9.5 months old)  I feel like i'm being walked on and that she only phones me when she needs a babysitter.  I have a really hard time saying no because i don't want to ruin our friendship.  She's a waitress and I know she makes good tips and her husband makes good money too...we are living on a tight budget with only one income.  I don't want to sound shallow either but during Christmas I spent about 25$ on each of her boys, plus one of her boys had a birthday a couple days before Christmas and she only spent $2.47 on my daughter --i know this because i went grocery shopping and saw what she had bought my daughter with the price advertised.  It really upset me because I watch her kids and have never asked for a dime and she can't even spend THREE whole dollars on my girl.  I know that sounds rude, but its upsetting for me.  Anyway, are there any suggestions for me without me wrecking my friendship with her...i feel used.  And...side note, i've been coming up with excuses to not watch her boys even though i've just been at home and able to, but she still doesn't get it.

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MummyAmy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | MummyAmy
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I use to be a babysitter and, let me tell you, your friend has it pretty good! I think your friend is taking advantage of you and maybe you should just tell her you are unable to take care of her children because you need to spend more time with own child. In reality her husband should really be stepping up to the plate and the care of the children should be his responsibility as well as hers. You should not have to pick up their slack because you are at home with your child. It's the job of a professional to look after the children not yours and until you say "no" she'll keep ringing.

JUST SAY NO! 



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4BOYZ
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | 4BOYZ
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Honey a good friend wouldn't ues and abuse you like that. Cut the strings now. You'll find another friend soon anyway. Just think would you do that to one of your good friends? By the sounds of it NO. Good luck. Be strong and put a stop to it.


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claudine1
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | claudine1
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Why do u think she calls u daily to babysit? Tomorrow morning i am bringing my kids to u to babysit, it will be so much cheaper.  She is a friend but often friends like to use someone that is to good. Put ur foot down. Take care, learn to say NO u will feel good after.


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ozhog
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | ozhog
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I suggest you register as a family day care provider.There is a specified fee per child per hour which is subsidised according to the parents means. It might be the case that your "friend" would only have to pay you a few $$ per day but you would be earning a proper rate for them. It might not be a license to print money but it is one way of getting fair recompense for your time and effort. And hey, if she doesn't like it, well you can always earn a bit looking after someone elses kids who WILL appreciate it. www.familydaycare.com.au


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Frontier
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Frontier
A Good Chance To Use The Friendship
If she is your friend here is a great chance to use the friendship. Friends can rely on each other and even upset each other because they are friends. A friend is someone you feel comfortable with enough to do things and say things without reservation.

Notice how your children may behave really well in public or at other peoples place and you get told they are little darlings and you say to yourself " you don't know what they are like at home" or "you haven't seen his dark side" this is because you are their friend and they are comfortable enough to be themselves.

You are providing a service at the moment (for free) and next time you get asked you may have to say something like " I would really love to but I can't afford to. We have run out of money and have to cut back on a few things."  By saying this you are saying that you would but there is one obstacle stopping you. If she is a good friend and has 1/2 a clue she would realize that paying you some money would help solve her problem and open the forum for conversation about the child-sitting arrangements and when you are doing you next friend activity such as a coffee or movie.


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Princess100
3.50 (Good) | January 2007 | Princess100
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Hey I hear you girl This is what I would in your reilationship with her tell her how you feel and stop lieing. Because some day soon she will find out that you are lieing to her. Trust me you  need to tell her the truth before it is to late. Send a comment to my ? PLEASE I NEED YOUR HELP. And i'm not trying to yell at you okay.


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | angelmum
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Her husband can't control them so does not want to look after them anymore!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me, Im sorry but that is pathetic, you are not responsible for her children she and her husband are.  You say you don't want to ruin your friendship by saying no, well let me tell you if she dumps you as a friend because you can't look after her kids every day she is not your friend.... If you can help her out from time to time that is fine, thats what friends are for, but to do it everyday because her husband does not want to.... no that is just wrong.  Friends should be honest to one another, tell her how you feel, be totally honest, she may not realise and if she is a good friend she will totally understand.  Do what is best for you and your family not for hers... Goodluck


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | nell18-3
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Its easy for me to tell you what to do! But I know I couldn't do it if I were in your shoes. I do not like any form of confrontation. Unless it involves my kids...... but then this does involve your kids
They are missing out on your time, your availability, your money, your patience, your peace of mind the list goes on. You need to tell this 'friend' that she is taking advantage of you and that you cannot let this situation continue.
If you feel unable to do this face to face, write her a letter asking her to read it several times before she reacts. How would she feel if the situation were reversed. She would not stand for it.
This world is made up of three kinds of people
Givers                                 People who just give and are taken forgranted
Takers                                 People who just take and are domineering
Givers and Takers            Balanced people who are prepared to give all they can but also able to take what is due to them whether that is in time, money, advice , compliments etc.


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klare101
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | klare101
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Hi

Yep you gave been shoved in a corner and are being used, your money to feed her children, your money to pick the kids up from school, your money to buy Christmas presents for both her kids, gee you have been subjected to an extrodinary situation called "push me over I don't mind".

Why this sounds hard is because it is. It's a very hard call for you to make as you have probably felt like "I do you a favour" and now it has a real sting to it by you are not as appriciated as you really ought to be.

At least you have recognised that you can no longer go on like this, that is a great start, now what to do about it? mmmm

Ok ask yourself what type of person is she can I just outright tell her that she is using me?

when was the last time she actually sat down and spoke to you as a friend not just picked up the likds and went away?

Ask her to come in for a bit of a chat make her watch her own children at your place make small coments like: Oh they do this or have done that at scvhool today an they have done homework blah blah.  Make it really sound like she is missing out on her childrens education and sports and stuff.

This will make her think if she has any interest at all in her own kids that is.....  Then openly make a comment on you and your life

something along the lines of of I was asked the other day to work at a day care centre and I would be getting Blah blah a day, afternoon  make some enquiries about the cost of the nearest centre plus pick up and delivery of the kids to and from the centre.  This is of course if there is one near you. If there isn't find another closely related babysitting facility and find out the cost, you really need to do this as you then know yourself what you could descide upon when it comes to you and your asking price. You are doing a paid job for free!!! Don't forget this.

These conversations might take the whole week or even a couple of weeks to tell her but at the end of it then oyu can say well you have told her, if however she is a person that doesn't take the hint then stop for a while, that's right say you got plans and you can't do it today then do it for a day or two the don't you have your own family and needs to consider now and you are making it hard for her yes lessons are difficult to teach when people don't get it, but they are worth it.

You can upset her but when she tells if she tells other people what she has done to you and your family then she will be hopefully told by her other friends and family that you are to good to her and her family. Stand up and stop being treated so poorly you and your family deserve a lot better in friends and in friendships.

You might have a better friend after this or you might not but at least you can consentrate on your own family and not have to be a mum to two families.

Oppps sorry it's so long hope this helps, all the best of luck let us know what happens.  :)

Have a great day!!



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      portugreek
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | portugreek
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Thank You!  I will try that idea of yours of talking about their homework and the latter.  Hopefully that works....I have tried telling her about when I've given the boy's time out and she doesn't like the fact that I do that, but I still do.  They are at my house and misbehaving, and that's my only way of maintaining order here.  She doesn't believe in discipline.  I know that I shouldn't go against her wishes but the time out thing works for them.  And I'm not psycho about it either...I'll either take away the nintendo or tv or move them to a secluded area (within my view) for 5 minutes at a time.  Maybe with me talking about her children the way a mother talks about her own...RE: accomplishments at school...and the whole time out deal, she'll pull me out as a babysitter.  I have a real hard time saying no...I am a pushover I know!  But thank you!  Thanks to everyone!


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           LoyalMiss
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | LoyalMiss
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Hi portugreek,  You say you shouldn't go against her wishes where discipline is concerned and that she doesn't agree with discipline.  You have every right to expect reasonable behaviour from children in your house in your care.  Maybe this is why her husband can't control the boys and doesn't want to look after them.  Does she allow her husband to discipline them????  If she doesn't then I can understand why he doesn't want to look after them.  However, this is NOT your problem - it is theirs!!!

Do you feel comfortable talking to your friend at all about this - I know you said you found it hard to say no?  If you can discuss this with her, then I would suggest you explain that babysitting for her everyday is taking time away from your child and that is a concern.  Plus you are having a hard time making every dollar stretch so you don't mind helping her out when she is really stuck but you are not able to do it everyday.  Also ask if she would mind paying you an hourly rate for the times you did help her out.

You may not get a good response from her if she is not really your friend and is using you but at least you have been assertive in a nice way.  If she is your friend then she will understand where your coming from.

I have a feeling that no matter how you tackle this she may not respond well and if that is the case then you don't need a friend like that.  However, she may get angry and then think things through and come back and apologise.  You may end up closer through it all and she may just respect you more.

Good luck and please let us know how you go.   Also if you do talk to her, please remember no matter how she reacts, you deserve to pat yourself on the back for having the courage to stand up for yourself.



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | breannababy
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I would not call her a friend,she is not exhibiting any friend type attributes.I would sit her down and point blank ask her to pay you an hourly rate for babysitting.....this is what you are doing,you are working an unpaid job and this needs to be rectified.I would let her know that you feel she has abused your friendship.I think she is taking advantage of you and needs to be stopped. good luck regards Merle


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Marguerite
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | Marguerite
Quid Pro Quo

You don't raelly need an excuse not to watch your friend's children for free.  It would be different if she was watching your children as well and you had a mutual arrangement going.  What is actually happening though is you are being used.  This is not a friendship you want to protect in its current terms.  The only choice you really have is to raise the issue with your friend and either offer to baby sit her children for a fee or offer a mutual arrangment or tell her to make her own arrangements.  Why should your attention be diverted from your own children? A person can only use you like that if you allow them to and you don't want your children to grow up getting the mesasge that Mum is a "walk over."  I know that friendships are precious but, with respect, this one doesn' t seem to be too precious to your friend.  If it was, she would treat you with more respect and would be a lot more giving to you.  In law, we call it "quid pro quo".  I do something for you - you do something for me!!!!



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allyp
5.00 (Excellent) | January 2007 | allyp
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Wow, I am sorry for this.. You feel like you're being used.. I"m sorry to say but you are. There is no excuse for her husband to say that he can't control her kids. I would just tell her straight out, that you need to be getting paid for taking care of her kids, either the same amount she was paying the babysitter or more. Or just tell her that you will not look after her kids no more and its her responsibilty to find someone else to take care of them. Its rude yes, but in the situation you are in, I would try that if I was you.

I would be upset as well if you spent sooo much money on her boys and she spends 3 dollars on yours..
I don't think there will be any suggestions for you that will not wreck your friendship with her. She might take it the wrong way, but later down the road she will hopefully realize and appolgize. Good luck is all I can say right now, aside from what I wrote. I hope all goes well.



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