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  anonymous | February 2007

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I was just wondering why it was that when I chose to disagree with someone elses point of view on minti and offer my point of view ( in a nice way I have been hit with a back lash. What I mean is, the moment that I posted my answer to the question, which was different to the other answers, I was given a poor vote. Now it appears that anytime I leave an answer to any question, or make a comment on an article I get given a poor vote. I'm not here for the votes, I really do get a lot of helping people in any way I can. I have never been rude to anyone here, put them down or tried to bring their ranking down. It just appears that now I have got someone higher in the rankings off side by not agreeing with them. I am seriously now considering leaving minti because I no longer feel like my point of view will be taken seriously.

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Izzy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Izzy
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Rankings are affected more than the rating on your comments, so I do hope you reconsider and not leave Minti.

As far as someone disagreeing with your point of view, that is to be expected in a community of more than 10,000 members. There is bound to be at least one who disagree. Whether it is the same person who is voting poorly on your comments, or a whole bunch of people, please do not take it personally. We really don't know whether it is indeed just one person, or a number of people...

Why do people vote poorly on comments? There's really a whole bunch of possible explanations; maybe something in the tone is a turn off, or the content is just not aggreeable,... or the voter is having an off day - I know I have a lot of those!  So there are a whole lot of explanations as to why.

 



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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | cookclan
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Hi there I am a higher ranking member and I couldnt care less where I am...I know what you are saying exactly on this as I to feel this has happened to me on my advices but guess what they have been voted down and I am still up in the ranks...It doesnt matter where you are on here at all...Because I am higher than another person that does not make me a better parent just that I have a bigger mouth hehehehe...I write more articles and participate a fair bit....I think but am not sure that participation has alot to do with your rankings...Do not go just because you feel you ar being ridiculed about your advice by some other members...I write about drugs and kids alot because it is something that is very close to our family and something I think is important but Not all minti members do and I have to live with that...Just my thoughts keep your chin up I have only ever given under 4 twice and they were for articles that I thought were dangerous....All people put amot of effort into their articles and comments and I think with this that deserves at least a 4....I still say wipe the ranks and go alphabetical....
Cheers
Angie


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lucky321
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lucky321
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i can't asnwers for others on how they vote but i vote on what i think good advice not on who writen the advice .I think if everyone agree on all the advice given  would be wrong .

So don't leave the site  yor views do count and can help others .



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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
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I agree with you on this one.  I have voted a poor on a couple of comments but it's not an attack on that person, or even that person's comment, it's just a vote to say that the comment did not relate to the question or that the advice, if followed, would be harmful to the child.  I think a sensitive person would take it to heart though, so maybe we could all be a little more considerate and not just vote for the sake of it.


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PHOENIX
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | PHOENIX
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I have seen on other site where the ranking system has been removed because of the backlash that happens when somebody doesn't like what is written or that their comments are voted down. I think if someone is deliberately marking a person down for reasons other then the topic (ie personal attacks) then it is a problem but really if you get a poor vote then perhaps a closer look at what was written and how it relates to the topic would be in order. this perhaps doesn't apply to yourself but is worth considering.

For some reason I haven't been able to vote on a few comments that I would have liked to vote poorly (new system I think but don't really care). There are ways of writing comments so it is known that it is your opinion and up to the other person to make up their mind. However I have recently read a few comments that are written as if they are gospel and are telling parents to do things that I feel are detrimental to certain aspects of parenting- I always write a comment(but mostly the persons comment has already been marked poor before I get there). I try to either write my comments based on personal experience and state this clearly or on researched fact and state this as well. I am not perfect and will make mistakes, but if I am voted poorly for an opinion I take a good look at what I've written and always see how I went wrong.

It is hard to put across a comment that disagrees (especially with hot topics) but if you feel that someone is deliberatley marking you down then maybe talking to admin might help.



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wildrose
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | wildrose
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I don't know whether I could answer your concern, but I would share my point of view. Excellent rankings, I think is more like other people agree and have tried whatever the comments/advices written. While Poor ranking, for me, is more to whether the comments/advices written is using abusive wording or meant to abuse someone.

If I read a reasonable comment/advice but I don't agree with, either I'd share my point of view or I leave it as it is without giving poor vote. But if I thought it's really abusive I might vote it as poor. But honestly, I do not vote other people opinion just because it's not the same with my opinion. It's free world, where you can share your thoughts and opinions. I believe it's Minti here for us. To share different thoughts....but not abusing others.


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lilysmom
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | lilysmom
not a parenting question
Oh hun, please don't leave. Some people can be ignorant of opposing points of view. If there were straight right and wrongs in parenting, this site wouldn't exist. Your input is valuable here!


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liddia
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | liddia
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i think that there is also a flipside to this concern.. maybe the poor vote was given because the person asking for advice didnt think it helped them in any way.. that does not necessarily mean they think your advice was stupid but rather that it didnt work for them in that instance.. i think that sometimes we get too concerned about what the stars say instead of simply trying to just offer up the best advice we know how.. MINUS the criticism...this is what i base my vote on.. if and when i do vote on advice... i think if that advice would really work for me.. if not.then it gets a lower vote than advice that would work.. surely that makes sense? having said that though, i havent given a poor vote to anything.. we dont all have the RIGHT answer for everything.. and everyone, as you said, is entitled to their own opinion.. some advice works.. some doesnt...that doesnt mean anyone is right or wrong.. it means they are simply trying to help... it really is as simple as that...xoxo

PS btw..we should never ever critisize anyone for how they choose to parent their children...unless if involves blatant neglect...

there, thats my 2 cents worth..

cheers!



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Jillofalltrades
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | Jillofalltrades
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You know that kind of activity is really starting to bug me. 

I have said it before and I will say it again we are here to obtain advice, give advice and we are all well within our rights to also give our opinions and people who don't agree with what we  say need to look at it from everyones point of view - Minti is a democracy we are all entitled to have our own say that is what forums and debating are all about. 

I am so sorry that you feel you need to leave minti because some people don't get the idea or what this site is really about.    Who cares about the rankings it doesn't mean that one person is any better than the other believe it or not some of us here don't ever vote people down.    I think I did it once because I didn't agree with something someone said but then felt so bad because at the end of the day it is how they are feeling their personal opinion, who am I to say that what they have said doesn't matter - now no one ever gets less than a 5 from me.

So please people don't ruin this wonderful site for other people, don't be vidictive and nasty we are all here because we want to help others and sometimes we need help back.  Take a step back and look at things neutrally, I know sometimes we all have things that we feel very strongly about and that is good but just remember that the person who has written the topic also feels very strongly about something - they wouldn't have written about it otherwise.

 



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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
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I'm sorry to say this, but when I asked a question about how to tactfully tell friends and family they cannot take my child in the car as they won't put the proper restraints in I was criticised by a member for having my daughter who is only 3 in a safety which will do her til she is 7 or 8. I was told in no uncertain terms that I was overprotective and abosultely criticised for it when I wasn't asking for an opinion on safety seats, but how do I tell my family and friends to get a car seat, borrow my car seat, or don't take her anywhere.  I did give a poor vote to the criticism I received. It's my choice to have her in a safety seat and being told I'm overprotective and being shot down for the choices I make to keep my child safe is not what I'm here for. Had the question read what age is reasonable to put her in a booster then maybe that would have opened it up a little more for criticism. I don't tend to vote unless I give 5 stars to a really great response/article but when I am attacked in that way as a mother I did give a lower vote.


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | MummaBear
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P.S. I have also sent a message to that person explaining why I gave a lower vote to that particular comment.  I think it's not up to someone to say to another mum that she is doing the wrong thing by her child by following safety regulations put in place by RACQ or similar depending on where you are from.  Smaller children stay in seats longer, larger children are out of them earlier of course as it goes on size not age, but the ages given are roughly the ages matching those sizes.


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mum2four
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mum2four
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Yes i tend to agree too unless u have been a long time member u rarely  get a second look, although i have found some comments and advice very good   and helpful , and have met a very nice lady .I did join this group because i needed some advice on some of my own personal problems at the time but i think the ranking system puts the competion there with some of the long time members and i believe it should be just  about getting on to talk about parenting issues and not about pushing you rankings up .


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | breannababy
not a parenting question
I agree I think minti is more fr the parents and should be less about the rankings.I do wish more people would be sensitive to the way they rate articles and advice.If you the poster of this question would like to private minti mail me I would only be to happy to help if I can regards Merle


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sam22
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | sam22
not a parenting question
i agree,this site is here to offer advice,give opinions and ask ?????'s i would leave minti for the simple reason that i do get put off or down for the opinions i give or get from others .....and there is a few out there that love to tick the poor box.im not here for votes but i like to think the advice and answers i do give are thought out and honest and i really try to put myself in that position and if i cant i simply do not  answer

if i  wanted to feel like crap ,i  could go join a mothers morning or playgroup
and thats why i joined this as i felt it was a place to have a say without all the bullshit that goes on long with it it's pretty much like a mothers group on line

so if i get poor   well i dont care
everyone is intiltled to their opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and after all we are all asking for those opinions


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ClayCook
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | ClayCook
not a parenting question
hope you dont leave.
one person shouldnt effect your rankings though. most items get voted quite a few times, so in time they will rise to the top


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mandymum3
5.00 (Excellent) | February 2007 | mandymum3
not a parenting question
Hello, I know what you mean about not being on minti for the rankings, but if i go back to have a look at what i have writen and see a "very poor" ranking for my veiw on something it hurts my feelings, mabey pm the person? good luck.


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