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Jody31
Jody31 | March 2007

Removal of obese children from their parents

Did anybody see/hear/read about Child protective services removing children from their homes simply because they were obese? I worked for child protection for numerous years in social work and this is ridiculous. There are currently hundreds of abuse related cases in the framework yet to be addressed and these people are removing obese children from good homes!! This is an issue for parents to undergo nutritional educational as well as the children. The last thing these parents need who provide a loving stable home is to lose their children. I believe its a matter of re educating not removal that causes permanent emotional scarring. Does anyone agree/disagree? What are your thoughts?

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astrogirl
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | astrogirl
Removal of obese children from their parents
I have to say I agree with you. When first saw that on the news, I was like, WTF?  The kids are probably (for the most part) in a safe environment with parents who love them and they want to take them away when there are so many kids living homeless on the streets or in situations where they are in real danger of being hurt by someone? good lord.

I always thought that children were only removed when they were in danger of being hurt caregiver.  While overfeeding your child isn't a good thing, it's definitely not in the same category as traditional forms of abuse. I would rather they helped the kids that are too scared to go to bed at night than the ones that need to go on a diet.

And also, I could see the whole thing sliding into a people "starving their child" thing because they are so scared they will lose their kids for being overweight... so either way, its not good.


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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | nell18-3
Removal of obese children from their parents
I totally agree with you
There should be something like a nutritional class that the parents should attend but removal from their homes. NO WAY!!
Surely this also ties up the child services in not having time to help the children in real need because of other threats to them
You can't punish children and parents this way just because of poor education on nutrition


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kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | kseers
Removal of obese children from their parents
I'm with you - I'm all for education - the system has enough children needing help without adding unnecessary cases!


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cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | cazza
Removal of obese children from their parents
i think that as parents we need to be more educated on what our children eat, not the threat of losing our children to others...As a foster mum myself i would strongly encourage the childs worker to work with the family instead of th family feeling like we are against them...Now i dont work for docs, but am registered as a foster mum within a diffrent department, and our area work to have the child returned to their family....


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Britt
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Britt
Removal of obese children from their parents
hey jody i have to say i agree with the issue to a point, these people have been told more then once to improve there childs diet and food intake as well as exercise, and have not meet with the childs need,it is sad to see people children be taken away but i think they should do a program like you said with the child and the parent and then if they don't improve take the child out of the situation, as there life is under threat being that obese, an 8 year old boy that weighs 99kg that to me is obscene adn cruel to let your child get to that point, i agree that he shouldn't be taken away they should be helping his mum to improve his diet and then if that doesn't work take him away then. just my opinion Brittxx


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Jody31
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Jody31
Removal of obese children from their parents

Well said above, attachment issues are profound with foster care placement and isnt to be looked up lightly. We used to have several foster care parents require counselling after children were placed back with their parents. However theyre arent all horror stories. Some parents do genuinely rehabilitate and deserve their children back and others do not its a sad world but just remember if you have them for a little time or a long time your generosity and kindness isnt forgotten.

I know here that foster carers are paid family payment if the children are in your care for more than 6 weeks and  a supplemental payment through DHHS itself. IF I knew you personally I could tell you lots and lots of great outcomes from kids in care or even shared care between parent and placement. One child grew up in care in our area and now works as a youth worker with kids in now similar circumstances. You see the bad sometimes and the good. I believe you see more good than bad having worked amongst it a long time. Its your own personal choice however look into it, research it and ask before making a decision and be wary of attachment issues.



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      blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | blackwidowkate
Removal of obese children from their parents
Hi
I know heaps of good stories with excellent outcomes all i am saying is be prepared for when things go wrong.....
Luv Deb


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tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | tassiebiarch
Removal of obese children from their parents

hi there i think it depends on each individual case if the child is ill from being overweight and the parents arn't doing anything then well yes they need to be taken away

but at the moment i think there is to much oversee on this issue and not enough on more important issues i have dicused this previously with other minti members

those children who are being abused and being left in parental care and then dying these are the issues that need to be sorted out not overweight but as i said depends on the health of that child

i would gladly love to take in a baby that has been abused etc and give them a warm and stable invironment any info on how then let me no



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      Jody31
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | Jody31
Removal of obese children from their parents

HI

Foster care for children is a wonderful thing there are always placements wanted for children/teens. If you contact your local Department of Health and Human Services you can apply to offer fostercare. Im not sure what state you are in, but things like home checks ie. safety, room space are all taken into consideration, so are the needs of your own children. You also have to undergo a police check. well worth contacting your local DHHS. One of the best things you can offer a child is a stable environment



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           tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | tassiebiarch
Removal of obese children from their parents
thanks i will look into it


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                blackwidowkate
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | blackwidowkate
Removal of obese children from their parents
Hi
Do it for the love of children nothing else cause if you do it for any other reason you will be sadly dissapointed...be prepared to be abused and threatened  and live a life of hell.....
I have had 2 very close friends pull out from foster care because they have realised in the end that they were providing a haven for mums to dump their kids on them and then when they get them nice and stable without mum having to be stable they are ripped out of your home and given back with you know full well they are going to be beaten once again......one of my friends had "her children" for 5 years one of them was 3 months old when she got him and with 2 nights notice they were taken from her and handed back to the alcoholic druggie abusive mother.   With no supervision nothing...she had seen her kids 4 times in 5 years.  
She then got lots of abusive phone calls saying she had kept all their belongings......she had sent with them what she had brought as theirs and the toys and clothes that she had brought  for all foster kids that she had she didn't send
She got a call from child safety saying they were going to charge her with theft of the kids belonging if she did not return everything they had brought over the 5 yearsincluding all clothes they had grown out of and her own sons bike that he had grown out of so she gave it to one of the younger kids to ride until they brought him a new one for xmas.....this was one week before xmas. 
She got the kids with the clothes on their backs.
But as far as the dept was concerned they had been paid money to raise these kids so everything should go with them......
The mother had been watching the house and there was a list of which toys she wanted.......saying they were all her kids stuff.....
How do you prove it was not brought for your child......
With the money you get for each child eventually you are lucky it is enough to feed them let alone buy heaps of luxuries.....
Most comes out of your own pocket......but in the end it is classed as theft if you keep any of it....
They are in the process of taking the case higher....as they had to hand over everything on the list even though a lot of it was her kids stuff......all they were asked was did you buy it in the last 5 years.....
But this hopefully is a more isolated case.....than the norm.....we can at least hope
Because my friend dared to speak up she has been treated very badly by the department whereas before this happened the sun shone out her butt as she never said no to any kid.....regardless of age and room ....
Now she refuses ever to foster again.....
As she can't do her job properly of protecting the kids
Luv Deb



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                     tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | tassiebiarch
Removal of obese children from their parents

really thats bad i new doc's was like that

maybe they are the same i thought foster care was a palce where they go before they found them a home i didn't relise it was like doc's cause i have friends that have doc's kids and yeah pretty bad not only that they reccomend you don't take them anywhere just incase someone see's the child very interesting



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