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MummaBear | March 2007

Where do we draw the line?

I know it's best to lead by example instead of doing something then telling the children they are not allowed to do it.  For example, my daughter goes to bed at 7 knowing I stay up after putting her to bed.  Should I go to bed at 7? Or even pretend to? Or should I keep her up til 11 or so when I go to bed? There are lots of things that we as adults do that we wouldn't allow our children to do.

I drink beer on occasion, my daughter has been known to get one out of the fridge for me, but she knows it's for adults not for children.  Is it hiprocritical? Or is it simply pointing out to our children that when they are adults they can make these choices too? Other things I do is that I can say to my daughter at the video shop she can only choose 2 movies from the children's section, while I get to choose movies from anywhere in the shop. I won't allow her to watch M rated movies, but she knows I watch them.  Are we expected to do only things we allow our kids to do? Or are we expected to allow them to drink coffee because we do, or watch M and R rated movies because we do? I don't think so. I will do things that are acceptable for adults, even in the presence of my daughter, but I will also not allow her to do these things and tell her that this is what adults do.

Just wondering how other people go about having an adult life and still keep their children from doing things that children shouldn't be doing?



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emmysmum
1.00 (Very Poor) | April 2007 | emmysmum
Where do we draw the line?
tell me something? who can honestly say that when their child grows up and has children of their own that they won't step in and say "oh don't you think you're being a little hypocritical"
I see things this way, MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO. IF you swear and your child hears you and repeats what you have said don't smack them! You swear so it's only natural that the child will swear.
As for "adult life" do you really think it is a good idea to be drinking in front of your children? Don't you think it sends out a message that drinking is good for you , same with smoking.....ALSO how could people smoke infront of children? Do you realise that you are putting children at 2 times the risk of getting cancer because of the passive smoking?
And also mummabear (AIMED AT ALL BUSY WORKING MUMS), considering you are a busy mum don't you all think it would be nice to allow your daughter/children to stay up an extra half hour to an hour just to spend some extra quality time with them!?


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
Where do we draw the line?

Ok, I might be a bad mum for being a busy working mum, but i've got no choice. I do however limit my hours at work to a 30 hour week, and have 3 full days a week with my daughter. If I have a day off for any reason, even if I'm sick, I keep her home with me too. If she is sick, I take the day off of course to care for her.  She is up at 5am and we spend quality time together. We go hiking, visit the museum, are members of both the local aquarium and the wildlife sanctuary near us and we go there once a month.  We go to the park nearly every weekend for an afternoon, we spend all day tuesday doing just us things.

I work to put a roof over our heads, I get no assistance from her father or from anyone else, and if that makes me a bad person in your eyes then so be it, but I provide for my child and I can tell you now she won't be going to some public education school when she starts school, she'll be going to a catholic school and I will be able to afford it.

I don't swear in front of my child except when we were nearly hit by a truck but when she repeated what I said I explained to her that it was a naughty word that adults sometimes say when they are frightened.  I don't for a moment think that drinking and smoking is good for a person. I don't smoke, nor do I let smokers within 10metres of my front door, but I do drink and when my daughter is an adult she can make a choice on drinking for herself.  I don't drink often, but I will be having a couple at our Easter bbq on Saturday and it will be in front of children.

Just one last thing, too, no it's not wise to let my daughter stay up for that extra half hour when she is clearly wanting to go to sleep by 7! If she says to me "Mum I want you to put me to bed" I take that to mean she wants me to read to her and give her snuggles in bed together while she falls asleep.  It's not hypocritical at all, it's teaching her boundaries.



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           emmysmum
April 2007 | emmysmum
Where do we draw the line?
i never said you were a bad mum, let alone implied it.....and just because i quoted about being a busy working mum it doesn't mean you are a bad mum at all.
In fact i think the opposite so settle down!
I might not be a working mum, but i am a studying mum and find myself just as busy.
I might get government support but it doesn't mean to say i am a bad person....HECK i am trying my damned hardest to get off it....i hate being on it!
I do my damn best, like you and (all other mums out there) to provide for my daughter....
Heck again....i am only 19 and OWN my own home.
She missed out on nothing....and whilst my daughter once ready for education, won't be attending a catholic school, she will be attending the best school i can find!
And one last thing.....the bed thing, if she is wanting to go to bed then fine....but if she doesn't ask don't push her!


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      kiarasmom2005
April 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Where do we draw the line?

K well the smoking (unfortunately I smoke), I WON"T disagree with you that it is just plain bad. We try to smoke as little around her as possible and have been battling to quit. We don't smoke in the house but when we go out we do. Not good I know but we are trying.

Your right monkey see monkey do, however, I think that if you make a really big deal out of things like that you are gauranteed to have a kid that may not say it in front of you (cuz they know they will get in trouble) but at school or in play with the other kids. I think that just teaching them that there are things for adults and some things for kids will help with some of those things. There is nothing wrong with having a few drinks in front of your kids. BUT falling down stupid drunk is a totally different story. Moderation emmysmum is all that is meant here. You don't want to damage your kids but having them sheltered isn't good either. I was a sheltered kid and when I hit my teens I was out of control. Ran away did drugs the whole bit.



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RebeccaDorant
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | RebeccaDorant
Where do we draw the line?
it takes a bit to teach them but kids just need to understand that there are things that they do and things that adults do... my son can hide in his box, i cant get in there! i have choc coated coffee beans he cant have them, cause they is all for me lol... just point out some things that only kids can do and she will get it eventually.


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kiarasmom2005
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | kiarasmom2005
Where do we draw the line?

Well said!! We as adults all had to wait our turn to do things adults do and now it's our turn to inflict these rules on our kids!!!   But I think when It comes to certain things........like safety and good or decent nutrition or money habits It is a good idea to set a good example so that when they become adults atleast when they do make the adult decisions that they will make them with self control and moderation.

 



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Wendigo
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Wendigo
Where do we draw the line?

I drive a car. I will not let my child do that until they are old enough.

I have sexual intercourse with my partner (when I have one - lol). I will not let my child do that until they are old enough.

I manage the finances of the house. I will not let my child do that until they are old enough.

I cook dinner and deal with the hot and dangerous things in the house. I will not let my child do that until they are old enough.

I go to bed late, I smoke, drink alcohol, drink caffinated beverages, I go to whatever internet sites I please, I watch what I want on TV... and I will not let my child do any of those things until they are old enough.

It's not being hypocritical.  It's being adult, responsible, and sensible.



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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
Where do we draw the line?
Very well put. Thanks for writing it in that way.  I think we need to protect our kids and I think we also need to have a life. My child can do all the things I do now when she is an adult and in charge of her own life. Until then she follows my rules, which means that she can't do all the things I do even if she sees me doing it.


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babablacksheep
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | babablacksheep
Where do we draw the line?
You make an excellent point. My daughter is only 3 months old so
i have not had this experience yet but we have been talking about how we will handle things in the future.


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lucky321
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | lucky321
Where do we draw the line?
WE are the parents  , we gudie our children though life  teaching them right from wrong .  I think as the kids grows they know that somethings are just for mums and dads So no  i wouldn't  go to bed at the same time i just keep things as they are .


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kastol
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | kastol
Where do we draw the line?

We are adults they are kids and they need to know the difference.  Continue to do what you are doing and dont let your child stay up late just because you do.  She needs sleep as much as possible.  Its hard when you have little ones to know what to do and even if its for the best but we do our best.  As for getting a beer from the fridge well trained HA HA only joking. When we have kids we have to rememeber that they are now part of our lives and they fit in with us.  If we change all we do to fit around them then we are not being fair to ourselves or to them. Take care

Kastol



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liddia
5.00 (Excellent) | March 2007 | liddia
Where do we draw the line?

i dont think its hypocritical at all.. there are things that children simply cant do. and staying up to all hrs and drinking beer are only a couple of them.. they are children and need us as their parents to to do the things necesary to make sure they are happy and healthy.. a child staying up til all hours of the night results in a tired grumpy child with a poor attention span and bad attitude..i totally agree with you. .children need to be aware that there are things adults do that are for adults only, and when they are adults they can then make their own choice s about the things they will do, but until then.. youre the boss.

as for having an adult life.. i simply tell them.. this is a mummy/grown up thing.. they know the difference..

great querstion btw xoxo



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