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proud-mommy | April 2007

Is it just me?? (please comment)

is it just me or do others see it.. there are parents out there who are afraid to discipline their child.. a smack on the hand or the bum is okay.. there are just some natural consequences that a child CANNOT have to go through, or might go through.. if your child is going to stick keys or a fork in the socket what do you do?? ill tell ya what id do, ill take the keys away from Dom, smack his hand (hard enough so he feels a little sting), tell him NO that'll hurt you, and get him playing with something else.. if hes going to pull over a boiling pot of water from the stove, youre darn right im gunna yell/raise my voice, if i have to bring him up to emerg because hes got 3rd degree, theres a possibility that childrens aid is going to be in my life from then on because they'll be saying why wasnt he supervised.. A smack on the hand, or a raised voice here and there is NOT going to harm your baby. I know this because that is how i was raised, and growing up i was MUCH more disaplined than most kids. why do you think my brother got stabbed in KIDERGARTEN, because the parents just let the police talk to him (NATURAL CAUSE, you break the law you speak to the police) nothing else happend.. why do you think my step sisters run wild since they were 10 years old, because they grew up on natural causes. also their mother didnt know how or when to disapline.. im not saying iam perfect, but let me tell you i dont want my son to be up on charges, disrespecting me, hurting himself, having childrens aid in my life when i could have maybe been able to stop it at a very early age.. of course you dont hit your child with a spoon, fist, or belt.. i mean how could you do that to anybody you love. its hard enough to smack them, but by smacking them you can control the seriousness of it, you cant control the seriousness of a burn, cut, or anything else like this... Please comment on this.. i would really like to see how people feel and react to this!

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cozmo
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | cozmo
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i think when we were all growing up we got smacked more by our parents today this is why a lot of kids these days dont have respect for there parents i will give my 2 kids a smack on the butt if they are really naughty and then ground them for about a week. hope this helps


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dcsmom
3.67 (Good) | April 2007 | dcsmom
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So, I think we're digressing here.  This thread was about discipline in general, not just smacking.  There are plenty of threads on this site debating the pros and cons of smacking.

I was actually enjoying the different views about all disciplines.  I am very disappointed in the fact that these days, parents seem to be paralized by the fear of setting consequences for thier children.  Not just smacking, but any kind of consequence.

When a child hurts my child, and the parent doen't even say anything, it just makes me mad.  What can I do, but make my son leave a place where he should be having fun, to avoid a kid who's hitting other children, and the offending mother won't even get off her butt long enough to say no hitting.

My son has hurt other kids before (99% by accident), and I ALWAYS say something.  At the very least I tell him to be more careful, and I always make him say he's sorry.  Sometimes, the other parents look at me like I'm some freak, making a toddler be responsible for his own actions.

But honestly, if he's capable, why wouldn't I?  Maybe I just have a little more confidence in the intelligence of my child.



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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
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I agree completely.  Out shopping one night, this guy came over with a girl who was about 4 or 5 and pushed his way in front of me in the line. They weren't in the shop at the time, they had come from outside the supermarket and I thought he wanted smokes and pushed in but didn't say anything.  Turns out this child had taken a lolly and he made her give it back to the lady and apologise for stealing.

Another time, my daughter kept blocking the way at the top of the slide in one of those play centres. I spoke to her about it, told her we'd leave if she didn't stop, she did it again so we left.  I didn't care that it cost us $8 to get in, she might not do it again next time we go.  I've also made her apologise from a very young age. Before she could talk she would give a hug to say sorry.



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Yummy-Mummy83
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Yummy-Mummy83
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I absolutely agree i smack both my children usually just on the hand. When Joseph was 16mths old he thought it would be fun to sit up against a wall and throw himself backwards into it repeatedly. It didn't matter if it was brick or plasterboard he threw himself full force into it and in one instance he actually cracked the plasterboard. I tried telling him NO, taking him away from the wall, putting him in his cot (which he started headbutting) and he wouldnt stop. Then he started getting on all fours and bashing his head on the tiles and i freaked out and smacked his hand, he stopped straight away and it only took about 2 weeks to stop him for good. His younger brother also has started to do it when he has a tantrum, i discovered that their father did it when he was a baby and his mum smacked him 2 get him 2 stop. I was smacked as a child and i have a deep respect for my parents, they still scare me!!!


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      yasir
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | yasir
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I'm single father of two boys age 6 and 71/2,  i do smack my children for bad behaviour  but i think my smacking is got to do with me taking out my frustration over their bad behaviour and i'm not proud of that.


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Dawn
4.30 (Good) | April 2007 | Dawn
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in any of these instances you can quickly remove your child from danger and voice your dissapproval without hitting! Children are naturally curious and we have to teach them what is ok and what is dangerous! A quick hand jerk and a voice that they understand as NO with get the same results as a smack! Children make mistakes we all do but should they be physically punished for natural curiosity? If you are working and you make a mistake would you like someone to smack you? Just remember violence begets violence!


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      KathrynR1402
4.20 (Good) | April 2007 | KathrynR1402
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I'm sorry Dawn, but there are times when "a quick hand jerk and a ....no" does NOT get the same results as a smack with my tough cookie! And it is not her natural curiosity but her willful disobedience!

Some children have the personality which loves your approval, and they are fully chastised if they realise you are cross. Others are born with a personality that lives for the fight, and they are going to turn a deaf ear to everything you say some days. You dont need to smack the former, but the latter will sometimes only listen to you if you can resort to a smack occasionally.



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rosalinda
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | rosalinda
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Sadly, in the eyes of the law, no physical chastisement is now legal. I keep saying that you can't legislate against idiocy, but they are still doing it. As it so happens, I agree. When a child is too young for negotiation, a quick slap to the offending body-part is the only thing that will work. However, there are people (parents) who are so full of stress & rage, that they can't stop once they start... this is the danger.


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      MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MadMel
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Sadly that is true. If anyone watched Dr Phil last week where that lady was bashing the crap out of her kids and they put cameras in to see how bad it was. I cried...


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           angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | angelmum
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Yeh I've seen that episode before, just heart wrenching, thats what people don't seem to understand, if they make it illegal to smack your child its all about protecting that minority of children who's parents go to far, and if it helps in even a small way to stop violence against children I am all for it


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mum2four
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mum2four
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As a mother of 4 , when my children  were younger and into mischeif i would give them a little smack  on the hand  with a firm NO when they were touching things that they shouldn't be.They soon learnt that when mummy said NO she meant No.This is how both my husband and I were raised ,with no harm to us. we have been together for nearly 18 yrs and my husband has always had a good job and our children have a stable family life.

But then with my husbands parents they were not as hard on his  2 younger  brothers as they were with him and they both have problems with drugs and alcohal and in and out of jobs and relationships at 25 and 26.Maybe it is a sign of the times or just with different parental stratergies.



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Brian49
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Brian49
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No i smack my 2 younger children if they need it only on the backside and not very  hard. I used to get hit when i was younger it didn't hurt me. Its rather funny my wife smacked our 8 year old the other night and he ran out into the kitchen  and got the phone and said im going to call the police because you aren't allowed to hit your kids, at the time it was a funny.


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      proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
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just becareful withthat because when he gets older one of these times when he gets really angry he will call the police.. ive seen it happy one too many times.. and he'll prolly exaggurate it.


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lucky321
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | lucky321
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i think parents theses days   are to sarced to smack there child . I did smack my dauther but only on bottom  and a tap on the hand . With by sons i only smack them once  and it was a shock  to them . As they get older though theres times i ready feel like  hitting them  , but parent has a right to the way  they want to disciplines there child  , weather  its a smack on  the hand or the bottom or time out or taking things away from them  for time


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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Libby24
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i smack my children, i do try not to with my son due to the autism as he doesnt understand why, but i do punish them. weather it will be you dont spend the few days at grandma's due to your bad behaviour or a smack. i was smacked, my father and mother was smacked and so on and so on and i believe that done right and not abused it works. my cousin doesnt and has serious probs with her kids ( aswell as the separated mum and dad thing with mum and dad slaging each other off all the time)
my sil uses the time out thing and sorry but her son is a shit. he pee's in the corner and gets time out, she doesnt raise her voise or speek any different so how is the kid suppost to know if he has done wrong.....


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Jambone
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Jambone
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PS I find it quite strange that I am one of the only people to disagree and I get marked down for saying I do not smack my child mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Anyway some lovely people have been voting me back up. Although that is not what I am here for anyway. Great discussion thoroughly enjoyed all your points of view.


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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | emmie
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all kids need discipline smacking makes a child realise they have done wrong i still need to smack my oldest daughter from time to time and when she is on 1 she needs a smacked bum and sent to her room to ring her out of it i love my kids more than anyhing and even my youngest has had a smack hand before now trust me your not the only one out there who believes its ok to smack your child i dont smack my kids hard just enough to make them realise no means no good luck


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ckelly
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | ckelly
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Congratulation to you on bringing up such a controversial subject!  I can see from the number of response that many people feel the same. I can see both sides of the argument to smack or not to smack. 
If you are able to teach your child the consequences with out smacking and still protect them from harm – well done to you. I will admit that I have smacked my child and got the desired result (he stopped before he ran straight in front of a moving car).
I think the fact that there are parents out there who can’t tell the difference between a smack and belting is why there is so much controversy. I believe that smacking should only be allowed if your hand is open (i.e. not closed fist) on the back of a hand or from the waist down. I would personally not recommend smacking in public – mostly because as a society it is not acceptable and the consequence for an adult who does smack can mean you lose your child



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      proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
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but then soon your child will realize that you wont do disapline outside of the home and chances are he/she will act upworse in public then people will think of you as a bad parent who doesnt disapline
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libbylincoln
3.26 (Average) | April 2007 | libbylincoln
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hi there i agree smacking is ok as long as its for a good reason and it stasy in the bum or had .i know aparently there is a rule now coming that no parents is allowed to smack a child well if anyone told me not to i would ignore it ,i have smacked my kids in front of human services and authoritys and when they told m enot to do it i told them" did you give birth to them? do you come to my house and care for them and deal with bad behavour ? well bugger off " and they walk off ,my kids are my kids if anyone like many have at time in public came to me and told me off for yelling to loud or looking bad i simply get my oldest son and ask them wht they think of him and 99% of the time they say he is polite ,well behaved and  a good boy so i reply to them " there you go so i must know what iam doing "

kids who dont get smacked tend to put it over parents and get away with to much ,most of us parents grew up with a smack and it never hurt us ,my father went over board and smacked me with belts something i would never do to my kids but if my son back chats ,steals ,stbs someone ,endangers his siblings or himself i will either yell at them or give them a smack i would never smack a child in the face or head ,my husband did that once and i made him fly across the room.he never again did it and leaves the smacking to me and i live the voice raising to him ashe has a deper stronger voice  it works .

children need love but sometimes you need to show him tough love for their own good.



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      cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | cazza
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i agree a bit on what u are saying here, about how children need disipline you show them that they are loved, but how can smacking them have them understand that thats the way to be affectionate to each other hmmm. Another thing i am confused as a foster mum i absolutely gobsmacked that you was able to smack your children in front of a docs worker or police officer. as why... i dont  want u getting offended by this, i just want to be able to understand ok.


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mnkygirl
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | mnkygirl
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I have only smacked my daughter I think twice, maybe three times, I find that if she is doing something, I'd prefer her not to be doing, or shouldn't be doing, i'll take her by her hand, tell her NO, MUMMY DOESN"T WANT YOU DOING THAT, or MUMMY DOESN"T LIKE YOU PLAY WITH THAT IT WILL HURT, then take her to  find a toy, or book or something else to play with.  I found that all I have to do is say no, and she will stop. 

But it's all about personal choice.  I don't like smacking, and I was only smacked as a child if I'd done something really wrong.



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      MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MadMel
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Distraction technique. Works wonders :)


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           proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
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of course, some things work better for others.. whichis also another reason why i wanted to have this discussion because for the people who dont smack the hands or stuff like that iam curious as to how they disipline, because maybe thats something i can try...


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MadMel
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Look its simple. Parents disiplin how they see fit. If you smack and it works great for you! If you dont have to smack and it works even better. My parents smacked us for a while and it didnt do anything. Grounding and taking things away worked better. ITs a personal choice. I think you are putting people into groups and I dont like it. Not every child who was never smacked turns out bad. I know a whole lot of beautifully behaved angel children who were never smacked. Its not about smacking its about finding what disiplin works for you!


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
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I'm one of 3 and we were all different. I responded to smacking, my older brother responded to having things taken away and being grounded, my younger brother responded to being told "I'm not proud of you" because he wanted people in the family to be proud of him.  Same family, same values, different discipline techniques at work.


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angelmum
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | angelmum
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I must of been brought up in a pretty wierd family, I have said on this site numerous times, my parents had seven kids and none of us were smacked, we were disciplined yes but my mum and dad never raised a hand to us.  None of us grew up to be criminals or out of control people we were normal rebelious teens but did not get in trouble with the law.  I don't use smacking as a discipline and neither do any of my 5 brothers or my sister.  Perhaps it comes down to respect, my parents respected us as human beings so our respect was returned big time, we have an extremely close family and we are all successful in our chosen careers and lives.  If my child is in danger I pull them away from the danger, if Im not close I scream to get their attention, but smack what for we teach our children we should not hit others yet the ones they trust and love the most hit them.  I don't think their should be a law against it, every parent has the right to raise their children as they see fit, but I choose not to use smacking as a discipline for my children.


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      breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | breannababy
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AAAHHHHH Now I know why you are such a FREAK PMSL


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tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | tassiebiarch
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i agree 100% kids these days need to be smacked and yelled at i was diciplined big time when i was growing up thank god i was. look at the children now days that arn't  no one can tell me that they have never smacked there children that includes a tap on the hand/fingers


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Jambone
4.65 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Jambone
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I do not agree, I have seen how with SOME people this can escalate in something quite physical. Unfortunately not all parents can remain in control of the situation and it gets out of hand, they do not know how to draw a line in what is as you say is OK smacking and what is not.

I  and my 3 siblings grew up with no smacking but had strict parents where the boundaries were set and feared more our parents disapproal. One look from my mother or fathers face was enough and we were displined in other ways. We have perfect manners growing up and were very respectful of our parents.

I am bringing my own child up in the same manner and so have my siblings. I do not make judgement of others who do use smacking as there technigue but would not use it myself. Although I do feel very uneasy when I see children being hit in public as usually in becomes worse in private.



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      proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
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I am just curious as to how you disapline or have them learn lessons when they do things (ex: keys or fork in electrical socket)? because if there is another way trust me iam all for trying it... i just dont want him to have to learn the natural consequence for it is all..



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           Jambone
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Jambone
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I do not think there is one miracle technique that will work absoloutley. I choose not to smack, so that is my boundary of discipline.We just try to remain totally consistent and united in our discipline. At a young age where they do not understand what the consequences of their actions are, I do not think that serious discipline is required or realistic. Saying that I still remove whatever the hasard may be and replace with safe item for example, explaining Briefly that No that is not a toy for you to play with, This is just an example.

I am not saying it is easy and not frustrating, but still do not alow them to purposely come to harm to "learn a lesson" I think they know how far to go and if your boundary is a smack then that is the point they will push you to. This is a hot topic by the looks of it and all I can say is this is what I have gained