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jmrmumstheword
jmrmumstheword | April 2007
   

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well we have just put mackenzie into child care and as i thought it was a good place for her to start out until kindy i believe i might have been wrong with the one we chose some of you might know it, it has the alphabet in the name?, well so far she has gone for 3 days and out of that 3 days she has already had two pairs of nickers stolen, she screams when i leave her in the care of certain women that work there yet she is fine with one other lady who works there, they tried to over charge us by $100, they don't watch some certain kids who are true bullies and hit and punch all day long i've had to say something to them about these kids because they look like they can't be stuffed, i think they have way to many kids for just two teachers, i know i sound like i'm bitchy but when it comes to the care of my child wouldn't you be the same?, my daughter is new to all of this and i want her to be safe and enjoy herself, should i take her out of childcare?
thanks in advance, nikki

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gwennie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | gwennie
child care gone wrong

If your child  isn't happy you should find another centre.  All children will connect with certain people and they won't with others.  It makes it hard when they don't.  If you feel the children are being badly treated you should report it.

My 4 yo is going to an ABC centre, his older brother also went there. They loved it.  I have found all the staff to really care and know you and your child by name.  They have both had some starting issues and it took my 4 yo 12 months before he would talk there. (been going there since he was 1 and a half). He also cried at times but there was always a staff member who would cuddle him and I would watch thru the door.  When I left he calmed down.

As others have stated that not all the centres are bad.  You just have to find the right one for you child and you.

Good Luck



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rockclimbr4400
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | rockclimbr4400
child care gone wrong
 I would take her out TODAY. She seems not to like it so much (the crying when you drop her off). I'm so sorry to hear you both go through this, but I think you will find a better place.


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Jessgore
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Jessgore
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When it comes to child care I think that as a parent we need to look into every thing before we sign the papers..... And I mean every thing. 

Just because one day care was bad for a child does not mean they all will be. Sometimes it is a game of hit and miss and you have to wait to find the right one. It does not pay to leave a child where they are not happy.

I work in a child home day care...  We have lots of different papers to sign.  I am only there two days a week and my son is there for three.  I have heard lots of complaints for and against lots of many day cares. Where I am living there is are many home day cares and all the women take the kids to the park during the summer and I get to see how other women treat the kids in their care... Some of them if my children were with them I would take my kids out straight away. Others I would be able to put my own life in their hands....

I say hit and miss because although all day cares have rules and regulations (and I am sure the ABC childcare has them too) it is not always the daycare itself that is the problem.. It could easily just be the staff and is a little unfair to generalize them all....  It only takes one disgruntled staff member to give a business a bad name...

My son also has certain affections to some people and not to others...  Some days when I leave Francis at the daycare on his day with out me, he will be happy to see the lady in charge then other days he changes his mind and runs to the other lady... Or visa versa...  

Maybe it is a problem with the staff at that particular center.

If you are looking into another daycare, good luck in finding one.. I don't know about Australia but here in Canada it is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack....


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      Shamali
3.00 (Average) | April 2007 | Shamali
child care gone wrong

Such wise words, exactly what I was trying to say, it just came out wrong.

Cheers



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Blond-Wild-Child
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Blond-Wild-Child
child care gone wrong

We had the same problem, everyday i would come home and complain about one thing or another. So we finally pulled the kids out and went to family day care (they can have a max of 4 children) and have never looked back. With such a small group they get more attention and much more looking after. Don't leave it to long hon, its really not good for the kids they pick up the worst habbits.

Best Wishes Blond.



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      Shamali
4.00 (Good) | April 2007 | Shamali
child care gone wrong

I personally wouldn't put my child into family daycare as i don't like the fact that they can take your child in their car and they are left with one carer, blue card or not, who says they are safe. At least in childcare (if you can find a nice one???????) you have peace of mind that you know where they are and very rarely is your child alone with just one carer.

Just my opinion... don't shoot me......



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           Blond-Wild-Child
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Blond-Wild-Child
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The family care we found is a government family care, they have to have a blue card and if they are taking children in the car they have to give you written notice. They also have to do a number of course's before they can commence looking after children, (ie) food handling course, first aid course etc. They are the ones to go through as you know they have done their course's and have had background checks.

Best Wishes Blond.



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           MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
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I must say, I looked into running family daycare and they are very strict about it.  Not only do you have to have a blue card and CPR/First Aid, ALL regular visitors to your house MUST have a blue card or they cannot visit while the chldren are present.  It has to be safe and secure, the doors/cupboards must have locks on them, the door to the bathroom and toilet and laundry have to have locks/safety gates on them to stop children playing in them. Parents  have to sign if a child is to go in their car like an excursion. THey have to do observation based programming and have all the signs up that daycare centres have to have. The place has to be kept exceptionally clean. The reason I didn't go for it was because I didn't want handwashing signs and healthy eating signs on everything, I didn't want to put labels on everything to say what it was. This is good in a centre, but I wouldn't want it in my home because I would not be able to relax here after hours. I'd want to separate home and work which is difficult when your bedroom door has "Door" written on it! But as for the qualification and certificates such as Blue Card, carers must have it.  Family Services come in without notice and if you are out shopping at a time that you haven't specified you will be pulled up on it, might even lose your job.  The difference is less kids and it's home-based. I'd like my child in there but not too many people are doing family daycare, they're looking for more carers which is why I looked into it myself.


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                Blond-Wild-Child
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Blond-Wild-Child
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i do agree with you there but wow signs?? the family care our girls go to don't have that, although they did do a safety house check.



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                     MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
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It's a recent thing. People who have been in family daycare for a long time don't have to put the signs up straight away but people who are new to it have to.  It's like when a company buys out another centre and builds new ones. New ideas are brought in straight away at the newly built centres but existing take-over centre are given time to adjust first and don't have to do everything new straight up.


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           tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | tassiebiarch
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THE FAMILY DAY CARE MUM THAT MY DAUGHTER HAD WAS FANTASTIC UNREAL WORDS COULD NOT DISCRIBE WHEN YOU SIGN YOUR CHILD TO A FAMILY DAY CARE MUM YOU SIGN A FORM WHICH WOULD ALLOW YOUR CHILD TO GET INTO A CAR IF YOU DIDN'T AGREE THEN THEY DON'T GO.FAMILY DAY CARE IS HARD TO GET INTO THESE DAYS THE RULES ARE HUGE THATS WHY THERE ARE LIMITED SPACES AVAILABLE FAMILY DAY CARE HAS MORE/BETTER RULES THEN DAYCARE LET ME SAY ONE THING I WOULD RATHER HAVE 4 IN A CLASS THEN 20 ODD

I DID NOT MIND MY CHILD TRAVELLING IN A CAR WITH THE CARER DID NOT BOTHER ME AT ALL SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE AND I TRUSTED HER 100% DON'T FORGET YOU GET TO CHOOSE YOUR CARER THRU FAMILY DAYCARE UNFORTUNANTLY THRU CENTERES YOU DON'T

AND I AM NOT HAVING A GO AT YOU YOUR COMMENT WAS WHAT I COULD COMMENT ON MWAH



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                Shamali
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Shamali
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You are lucky to have found a nice one. Where I live they are rare... I looked into being a home daycare mum but I just couldn't. I like keeping home and work seperate.


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violeta
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | violeta
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I made the mistake by staying (or should I say let my son stay) and I end up causing long term problems with my son dont make the same mistake get out.


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      jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | jmrmumstheword
child care gone wrong
thanks for the warning, i have told my husband i want her out of there and he agrees with me if she isn't happy i won't make her stay, her wellbeing means more to me than a couple of hours break
thanks again and i'm sorry about your son big hugs


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jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | jmrmumstheword
child care gone wrong
thank you so much everyone, i know what i need to do
the only crap part of this story is all the other playgroups around are ABC too grr, i may need to take her elsewhere even if it's in another suburb hmm
thanks again everyone


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      Shamali
3.22 (Average) | April 2007 | Shamali
child care gone wrong

I have posted this comment before... Just because one or more Abc centres are crap don't categorise them all to be... I work for one and our centre is only a 35 place centre, the staff are great and our atmosphere is wonderful. We are on the same ground as another Abc centre who unfortunately are opposite. So unless you've been in the centre and spent time there please don't judge. It is true there are some childcare workers out there who just don't give a crap, you need to spend some time there, all day if you have to and you will be able to tell for yourself.

Cheers

Amanda



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           jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | jmrmumstheword
child care gone wrong
not to be rude but i just checked out ur home page and i read there that you do work at the abc centre but you also take ur youngest daughter with you so unless you have dropped her off at another child care centre you don't know what it is like some of us don't have that privilidge
thanks


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                Shamali
2.40 (Poor) | April 2007 | Shamali
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She did attend another childcare, an Abc centre that wasn't good and that was why she was moved to my centre... my point is that they are not ALL bad


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           jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | jmrmumstheword
child care gone wrong
well actually i have spent the time there and when we are there they handle things better but what i don't see i don't know and my daughter isn't liking it too much so i need to be a good mother to my child and get her out.
it's not just one person who doesn't give a damn it's many and if these people are going to look after our children i want them to do a good job of it, i don't mean to be rude, it is hard to find a good place to send your child too and i have no problem looking after my own children my daughter is showing signs that she is ready for it so that is why my husband and i send her not to get rid of her, i just want to clear that up, i do understand that not all centres under the same name are the same it's the people that work there that make it a nice environment for our children but these particular places that some of us have been talking about should be discusted in the way they handle things, my children are my whole life and if they choose to abuse that fact then i will abuse the fact that i can take her out of there
i have already made up my mind she isn't going back!
thanks again


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                Shamali
4.80 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Shamali
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Hey... I agree with you there is no way I would leave my child where she isn't happy, that is why Amali comes with me now. I was trying to make a point that we aren't all the same. The bad publicity about the company I work for gives my centre a bad name, people shy away because they have heard bad reports... when I can say confidently that ours is one of the best. It isn't fair that the good centres earn the same name as the bad ones.

I was in no way trying to convince you to get her to stay, I was just making apoint not to condem them all. Good luck, I hope you find a lovely centre for your daughter with nice staff.



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                     jmrmumstheword
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | jmrmumstheword
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thank you, i'm sorry for getting my back up it wasn't fare to say those things.
i just thought you meant that i haven't checked it out properly or just left her there and walked away without a care so i apologise for being rude, you are right with me saying that the abc centre was bad didn't mean that they all are like that which i think i've said before anyway, i know it's not the centre that is bad it's the workers that make it that way, i understand that it isn't fare that they earn the same name as the rest but being someone that doesn't work for them it is easy for me to say that but i do understand where you are coming from now
thank you once again, i hope i can find one for her because it is her that misses out in the end


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                          Shamali
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Shamali
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Have you tried a mothers group or playgroup rather, where you stay and get to meet other mums, might be a good oportunity to suss out where the other mums take their children and where a good centre may be?


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kastol
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | kastol
child care gone wrong

Its so hard to find good care for your kids. Thankfully we have been lucky.  I agree take her out now!!! and find something different.  Just by you posting this question you had a feeling and you are not over reacting.  We as parents need to trust how we feel and I often find myself pondering over somthing only to come to the conclusion I first thought of.   Its great to have MINTI here because just  like this Q we are 95% sure of what we need to do but just to hear from others gives us that extra 5%.  Good luck & take care it will work out.

Kastol



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | nell18-3
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Get her out of there fast !!!
She should feel safe, content and happy to be going there, its an important milestone for her and its going to make her scared of every milestone similar she crosses
I'm sorry you are having to deal with this
xxxx


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Ngairi
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Ngairi
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When my youngest was in child care for 2 years, we were with one that is just down the road. They were fantastic! Any problems I could just let them know and it would be followed up. When Connor hit Preschool (Kinder for those in other states), he only needed 3 days a fortnight. Again this was no problem, only got charged for those days. Also when I was going through a HUGE cashflow problem, there was no problem with payment. Last August, the other illustrious lot bought these guys out. Well, I was then being charged for 2 days per week, nothing was handled from management, and staff discontent was at an all time high. I have nothing much good to say about the alphabet ones at all and tell everyone I know the same. The staff are terrific, but are being stifled by what management are telling them to do. Get out now!

Leisa



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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | breannababy
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OH YEAH real fast get her out Nikki.Hugs Merle


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tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | tassiebiarch
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funny you should say that my daughter and son went to family day care in tassie 4 days a week(son 1 day) and they loved it wanted to be there 7 days lol then we moved to vic and put her in the abc centre and they hated it cried,scremed i had them in twice and then took them out it was horrible to watch so now lil goes to kindi and k has to miss out as we have 2 daycare places both abc.everyone close to me that has experienced abc has said nothing nice about them. i am happy to keep them home cause if i had to put them in care family day care is my choice(limited spaces where we are at the moment)


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