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  anonymous | April 2007

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My daughter's father wants to come up to visit for her birthday.  I have remained close to his sister, and have become close to another sister of his and have some contact with his brother and family but not much.  His sister will be coming up with her hubby and their son, and she told me she has even convinced her parents to come up. That will be the first contact they will have with their grandaughter who is turning 4. They were nasty towards me until about a year ago, then I just didn't hear from them. Apparently they are embarassed at having treated the 2 of us in such a bad way when we aren't bad people, so they're not talking to us at all any more.

Anyhow, his sister has been really looking forward to it and has booked into a holiday apartment for 2 weeks to coincide with my time off and my daughter's birthday so we can spend heaps of time together.  His parents are only coming up for a few days and staying in a motel.  I have found out my daughter's parents will be bringing him up for it too and that's not what I want.

My child is a child of rape. His whole family know this, he went to jail over it and some of his family have been very supportive. His parents weren't at all supportive of me and my child but I understand I did send their son to jail who is their baby and now living with them. They have decided that it wasn't my fault and certainly not my child's fault that he did that to us and they are also aware that he has been up on other charges against other women too, including former girlfriends.

I don't want him here, I have told his family this. His sister said she can't stop him from coming up because they will be coming up a week before him and the parents and leaving a week later. She said she doesn't want him there but the parents think he should meet his daughter.

What's the right thing to do? It's only 1 weekend, he has no legal rights to her and lots of people will be here.  I am having some of my family staying with me and will not be here alone at any time.  He won't have his own transport as he will be with his parents who have said he will be with them at all times.  I don't think i get much say in it, but I don't think I'll cope seeing him and would hate for my child's birthday to be ruined by her mother having a breakdown.

Sorry this is so long, I had to include all the information.  I just don't know how to tell his mother who is determined to bring him. I've even told her she won't be invited, but she said she will come anyway because I've sent her an invitation already.

Please help!!



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lonely28
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | lonely28
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My daughter is also a result of rape and I can completely understand where you are coming from. I've gone to extraordinary lengths to keep him away (some that I'll not mention, nothing harmful though) for my daughters sake and more importantly mine. I have faced him in court and that was the hardest thing (besides giving birth) that I have gone through. Honey, act now and get an avo to begin with. There is no need to feel obligated to anyone in this situation. Do what you know is right for you and your child. His parents have no right in saying what is right for your child, only you do. Contact the police and speak to their sexaul assult officers. They will be able to guide you as well. Please mail me at anytime if you would like to chat, I am here to help as much as I can. Take care darlin' and we're all behind you 100%.

fiona xoxox


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Blond-Wild-Child
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Blond-Wild-Child
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I have to agree with all of these coments the girls have made, but you know what sometimes even the police are slow getting to your house. I would if you can hire a couple of security guards for the day, if he comes make sure he can't get in or he at least is being watched the whole time. Please remember no matter what he does he is the childs father which is harsh but maybe its time your daughter knew her father is nasty.

I wish you really goodluck with this one.

Best Wishes Blond.



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | nell18-3
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I agree with everything you said except one thing!!!!!
Depositing sperm under force does not make you a Father!!!!!!
I don't believe he has any rights or claims to the child at all
Sorry to be harsh but thats just what I think


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           iancherine
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | iancherine
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That is exactly what I would have said if you hadn't already. To become parents both people need to agree with it. YOU are that child's mother and all mothers that I know would do anything to protect their children.

I think in your heart you already know what you should do.

Good Luck. I would imagine that this is a hard thing for you to have to live with but I am sure you have a most beautiful daughter to make up for all the pain.

Cherine.



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           madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | madchanny
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i agree Nell, when he chose to rape, he chose rape for pleasure, not to be a father to a child, men (or so they think they are) like this sicken me.

xox channy


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MadMel
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MadMel
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Go to the police. Tell them he is saying he is coming to see you and your daughter. Ask for a Protection Order. HE RAPED YOU! He has no right to come anywhere near you.

Then call the parents of this perverted gutter rat and tell them you have got protection orders against him and if he shows you WILL call the police immediately!

If he did it to you dont let him near your daughter. Scum like that would be more than likely to do it to her!


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lucky321
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | lucky321
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Hi there,

I frist go down  to the loacl police station and get avo out on him .His parents has no rights to invite him to see his daugther, who  do they think are . If they don't like your desions on not wanting him there to bad . Be

thinking of not letting them see her either . If  his parents saying that they are coming and you can't stop her i be getting avo out them as well, You don't  needed this men in your life and you don't need his parent telling that they coming there weather you like it or not .

ihope your daugther has a wonderfull brithday   and i  wish you both all the happiness in the world

 



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nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | nell18-3
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I can't believe the family of the rapist!!!!!
How dare they put you through this
You are amazing enough to allow them to have contact with your child, that is worth a lot of respect in itself.
Get some legal advice
No way should anyone expect you to have to face your attacker
I have similar issues with my ex and believe me I can't be in the same city with him without being scared so its totally wrong for anyone to expect you to cope with this
I would say if he turns up then none of the family will be allowed in or around you or your daughter
He has absolutely no rights at all
They may have forgiven him and love him still, they're his parents, but no way should they expect you to be comfortable with this
Whatever happens stick to your guns and do not allow him anywhere near you or your daughter. Get an order in place so if he does come near you all you have do is call the police
Big Hugs to you this is a terrible situation to have to deal with


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cheleinkal
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | cheleinkal
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Get a restraining order on that raping son of a (*&&(%^%$&%$#!!!!!!!

If he comes anywhere near you have him arrested again!!!

Easy.

If you don't want to see him then him insisting that you do is paramount to harrassment & if he persists that is stalking & there are laws against both these days.

Explain to your childs Aunts & Grandparents that you have nothing against them at all and they are welcome to meet you and your daughter at the park or what ever, but you will not be forced to spend time with a man who hurt you physically & mentally & it is too much for them to expect you to.  he may be there son & brother but he is the man who raped you & forever changed your life & personality.

If any of them were raped, would they hang out with the person who did it afterwards?????

I think not.

If they choose to take offence & not come, it's no skin off your nose, or your daughters for that matter.  After all his parents raisd a son with the morals of a gutter rat's flea's, so in my opinion they probably don't have a great deal to bring to the table by way of great Grandparenting skills.


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proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
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im sorry i didnt even finish reading this.. you need to keep him away.. you have every right to say no... do you want your daughter meeting a rapist!!!!!! thats not right even if it is her father.. thats even worse.. if you absolutly believe she should meet him make it so that its not on her birthday... dont allow him to wreck it.. wait until shes older and can understand whats going on.. and let her make the decision on her own.. when shes way older.. shes going to meet him for the first time then all these questions might come, and shes going to want to se ehim more. she cant loose what she doesnt have right now.. but if you introduce the two of them, she'll having something to loose then!!! just think about it.. why put your 4 year old daughter through that.. she can understand a lot, and when shes told this is your real daddy, theres no going back!!


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emmie
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | emmie
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god no reading the end of that scared me that is a BIG NO NO  ive been in your daughters situation my step dad raped me everyday for 6 yrs trust me if he has done once he will do it again once a rapist always a rapist its also not good to let him see her anyway meeting his family she has never met is goig to throw her for 6 its a hard desicion but you need to make the  right one for your little one i give you all my support your really gonna need it


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Tadexpress
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Tadexpress
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I would certainly be calling legal aid to see what your legal position is, it may be you can take an avo out and I would be wary of these people arriving baring gifts seems to much like "lets leave this in the past and forget it happened and become happy families" under the circumstances I dont think I would be strong enough and maybe its that you need to be assertive enough to say he's not welcome and if you think he should be then neither are you. I know this will be difficult and ppossibly you will need support from your family to do this however I feel that your question hows a degree of fear about this man and thats enough to act to protect yourself and your child. Im not sure how far you are in coping with the attack, if you have had or are receiving counselling let your counsellor know what their intentions are and get some emotional support and guidance...personally Id be saying leave me alone but I am not you and only you know what you can truly cope with, best wishes.


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wolonfab
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | wolonfab
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Hi....

If it was me and my children i would say oh well if he is coming and you cant understand i don't want him then i have to stay away......its your child that matters most right now and she may still remember what happened ...and you know u still remember

He may have served time but in my eyes it doesn't make what he did go away.....

I'm sorry but you cant be there every second of the day...and people have to sleep and this guy hurt your child then there is no court in the world that would allow him to even see his daughter in a normal circumstance.......... 

I think the fact that u don't want him there shows that its not the best thing..... there is o way in the world that a man who had hurt my babies would ever come near my children if he is their father...He gave up the right the day he touched my child in the wrong way

sorry a bit close to home for me so i may seem a bit rough.......


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breannababy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | breannababy
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Sweet heart get a restraining order against him these people wont listen.......This is not good at all,I have read all your prior posts too.They are making you powerless again and you do not have to be I would retract the invitation to the parents and get the restraining order.You and your daughter do not have to have this person in your life I think you have been extra-ordinary in allowing these people into your lives as it is,do not let them rail road you into  a potentially dangerous situation.I honestly think this sperm donor seems to be inching closer and closer and this is not healthy.Bring in the law and let them know you are doing this.Keep us posted Hugs Merle


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ClayCook
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | ClayCook
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tell his family he is not welcome at all.
he is a rapist and he should not be able to be near one of his past victims. (sorry - i dont mean to call you a victim... i just cant think of a better word at the moment).
I really feel for you and you must be very concerned.
If his parents are of this opinion (that their son should be allowed to see his biological daughter)... then if it were me I would say they need their head read and they are not welcome either.

[you have got me fired up!]


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      cheekymonkey
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | cheekymonkey
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I think a better phrase would be that you are  a survivor of a terrible and imo unforgivable crime.

My interpretation of this whole thing is that at no time have they at all respected you or treated you justly. What they are doing is cruel and inhumane. I really can't handle women who think thier darling sons are freakin angels when it's obvious they are criminals or worse than that, convicted sex offenders.

Basically tell them, that in no uncertain terms wil there any contact between you/child and him. Direct or indirect (eg gifts or "he said to say hi" etc. If they can't accept them, then thier invitation will be retracted. If they still don't get the point, advise them if they attempt to do so you will call the police, and that you are seeking legal advise. Get in contact with legal aid or a womens advocacy service now.

These people do not have the right to violate your safety/security.

grrr so cranky



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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | Deborahsc2203
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tell me something ,, even know he went to jail cause i dont know how this works but is there also an avo out on him? is there rules that have been set in place that he isnt to contact you and stay away etc,, if there is i would just let his parents know that also that you will be in contact with the police if hes to come to her birthday .

he has no right to ruin both your days thats just selfish

i know its not  you or your daughters faut and by normal circumstances all parents and child have a right to have that realionship ,is he also unstable ? I do feel for you and wish you nothing but the best for you and your daughter



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