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proud-mommy | April 2007

I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???

i have a situation.. more so complicated if you ask me.. My sister in law who i see pretty much as a sister, just lost her baby about 2 months ago. And shes very angry at me because my baby lived..

For a little bit of history, this girl just wants to be a mom, she wants lots of children, she wants to live her life raising children.. When i came home about a year and a half ago pregnant, she told me that she was jealous that i was pregnant. Then her and my parents got in a huge fight, but we did find out that when i was pregnant at 6 - 7 months she jsut found out she was pregnant. and then she all of a sudden wanted back in our lives..

So when Dominik was about 2 months old She all of a sudden wanted back in our lives.. She eventually started comming to the house and visiting again.. She delivered her baby Marshall on February 16th.. I love him soo much, she even put the flower that i bought for him in with him for when he was being cremated.. that really meant a lot to me.. i wasnt even expecting that.. nothing else but a picture of her and mike, and my flower was with him.

At first she was unable to see Dominik which was completely understandable.. But after about a week and a half to two weeks she was fine and able to see him.. 

Since then she has come to me just to talk, ya know asking for advice, but everything i tellher she has an excuse for, or shes already done it. she tells me these depressing stories and that nothing can make her happy except if somebody brought her baby back. I told her (nicely) that i cant help her, she needs professional help to help her cope and to make things better. nobody can bring back her baby.. and she just snapped out.. its almost like she hates me, and my son.. and the impression that ive been gettin is that shes been having these feelings for a long time.. and shes just commin out with it now!!!

i just dont know what to do.. i support her, and love her to death.. but i just dont have the answers for her.. and i find it really sad that shes taking her anger out on me and my son.. she says to my mom that i didnt even want a baby why did i get to keep my son.. typpa thing.. no i didnt want a baby, but i got pregnant, and i learnt to deal with it.. and now i wouldnt trade him for the world..

I feel really bad for her, i just want to help her.. but when i was soo invested with it i felt guilty for having dominik..

Im really extremely confused and dont know what to do!!! i seen a councilor and she told me that if i kept doing what i was doing and feeling guilty then one day dominik may feel guilty for being a live, and i will NEVER let that happen!!  



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narni
April 2007 | narni
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
i absolutely no wat ur sis is feeling it sounds like ur talkin g about me. my baby lived thank god! but was on the edge for 3 mths and we were given a 7% chance of survival and that was optimistic. so i felt like i was looking down the barrel of a smokin gun the whole time while my friends babys were great and my friends pregnancy was great and she did all the wrong things and her baby was fine and i was anal during my pregnancy and did everything right. and my baby got sick and it wasnt fair i dint deserve this and more importanly my baby didnt deserve this. to make it worse my baby got sick from a virus that she caught from someone at a week old and the only thing we knew 100% it that it wasnt from me coz the could test my anibodies to c if i passed it2 her thru the woumb. so it was someone  else, someone else caused this, someone else was killing my child. u can only imagine the anger i felt towards my friends and especially there kids because kids are germ filled its part of life( and its normal) nad i knew this but i was still angry at them. i couldnt help it.she is 15months old now and i am able tolet her play and muck around and get dirty with the other kids but that has taken a long bloody time for ages i couldnt let any of them near her feared even letting them breathe near her. anyway my point being thatlots of the things shes feeling and will continue to feel 4 sometime im sure, arent gonna make sense, not to u or her even, but shes gonna feel it anyway even if she tries not too! and u jus have too try and give her leeway to have outbursts and such dont let it affect ur child but let her feel angry sad happy  or wat ever. she will probably love to see ur son coz shes missing having a baby around and she may b angry at u for being succesful but u jus need to b strong in urself and no that u did nothing wrong and u do deserve ur child. but she cant help it at the moment its natural for her to feel this and u prob would to if situations were reversed. in time things will get easier. she prob dosnt want proff help yet coz like u said noone can give her her baby back so wats the point, and thats my point, shes right! shes not ready to move on,or past it shes not ready to help herself because right now shes as close to her baby as shes ever gonna get, so shes gonna stay here! if u get my point. she needs to b ready to move a bit further away from the pain and from the attachment of her baby b4 she'll b ready to get help. so jus b there wen she does. let her go her own pace and wen u are feeling like u are jus try and think like her.jus listen, she knows u dont have the answers for her i think ul find she jus wants to b able to tell u how she feels and b supported  and not judged. feel free to email me if u wanna chat about it.


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peperonimum
April 2007 | peperonimum
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
I'm sorry to hear of this sad story with your family, and hope i can offer some advice to you..
I suppose age has nothing to do with it but there is a mention of this Girl who seems young and not mentioned as a woman who's so desperate for children, having them and much love for them and the jealousy she had when you were pregnant, those are very powerful emotions she has experienced at a young time in her life.
Now she has lost her son and is experiencing much anger but understand, underneath anger is HURT, we don't know HOW to express Authentic Hurt essentially so we mask it through anger because its easier to deal with the hurt and Other people can foot the bill so-to-speak. She is still a mother now and always will be and she needs validation of that. Remind her she is a loving mother that loved her son soo much that he was too special for this world and needs to watch over his mum now as an angel and that is the purpose of lost babies. Speak to her Wounds like poetry and it will soften her heart to cry it out. She is in so much pain that i cannot know it, only a mother's loss knows the pain.  validate that to her  that she is nursing an angel that you cannot do since your baby is here on Earth, make her feel her suffering is not in vain.  Don't take it personally that shes taking it out on you, she feels safe with you to express her anger, just see that she needs a soft place to fall to grieve. You are being called to help her this way. Much love to you. xx
  


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      narni
April 2007 | narni
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
thankyou for ur incredibly wise and empathetic advice i think u will help this lady very much if she takes this on board. i only wish i had u to say this to my freinds in my time of greif while my daughter was fighting for her life and i was acting much the same way as this poor girl.!!!!!!! even thogh my daughter lived  at the time she was dying and this sort of empathy from those around me would have been my saviour!


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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | cookclan
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
Hi there Okay I am writing this answer as I too have been through the loss of a child....2 months is a very short time so if she only lost her baby that long ago then she is still in the grieving process herself....It has been 12 years for me and come February I still grieve My Jessica....I have written some advice here on helping someone through the loss of a child but then you could also offer to go with her to some couselling....Right now she is probably angry for unselfish reasons at anyone and everyone who has had a successful pregnancy not just you and as hard as that may seem to you it is part of her greiving process...She may need to yell and scream to make herself let her anger out I really don't know... All I do know that going through this sort of loss is a very hard part in her life....Good luck to you with this one and maybe you can find something in the link to help you understand her thoughts....
Cheers
Angie


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MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | MummaBear
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
I know how you are feeling.  I fell pregnant in an unexpected way at an unexpected time in my life.  Wouldn't give it up for anything in the world.  A workmate of mine had a 7 year old girl and had been trying for a baby from the time their daughter was a year old.  No luck.  When I found out I was pregnant I didn't tell anyone at work for a while.  When this woman came in to work one day saying that they have finally got a positive result was when I started getting morning sickness.  I told them at work that I was about 4 weeks pregnant.  The poor woman had a miscarriage at 7 weeks and she took it out on me.  For the first part of the pregnancy, until I discovered I was pregnant, I drank pretty heavily and was staying out til all hours of the night and not being very nice to my body at all.  She had been doing the 'right' thing and I had been doing the 'wrong' thing so why did my baby survive? I left that workplace because I was too sick and even though it was a childcare setting, I was a disabled carer and the work was much more physically strenuous.  When my baby arrived I had most of the staff come to the hospital to see me.  They told me to take her out to work to see the rest of the staff before heading away since I was leaving town for a while.  This woman had suffered another miscarriage when I was about 8 months pregnant.  So to see a newborn a few weeks later was a shock to her.  I don't see her as she was a workmate not a friend or relative.  She saw Hannah who was 5 days old at the time, yelled that I was an alcoholic and an abusive person and not a fit mother and I didn't deserve a baby like she did.  I wasn't an alcoholic and the moment  I found out I was pregnant I stopped drinking and still don't drink often cause i can't afford too many night's out.  I am far from abusive but she had suffered 2 miscarriages in the time I was pregnant with Hannah and she was unplanned while her baby was 7 years of planning and still not happening.  I understood her frustration and suggested she sees someone about it.  I think you are doing the right thing by supporting her, and all you can do is be there for her but if it's getting you down you might need to keep your distance for a while and maybe suggest a few places that she might be able to get help.  I guess it's good that you can understand why she is feeling the way she is but if it's affecting you and your son then it's time she saw a professional instead of you.  I wish you and your sister in law all the best and I really hope she gets help soon because the loss of a baby is the hardest thing to overcome, planned or unplanned.


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      proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
ive given her resouces to go to.. but she doesnt want them.. nothing can bring her baby back so it seems like she doesnt want it to get better.. she was overdue by almost 2 weeks, the cord got wrapped around the baby 4 times.. and when she went into labor the cord just got tighter.. shes just ANGRY at me because i had a baby that i didnt plan for or really even want at that time of my life. and he survived.. which iam definatly greatful for now. ive tried helping her, but like i said, if i give her suggestions she just tells me that shes done it and it didnt work, or shes got an excuse not to do it..


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proud-mommy
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2007 | proud-mommy
I NEED HELP... greiving mom taking her pain out on me???
Sorry dominik was 2 months old and she wanted back in our lives!!


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