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lightbee | May 2007

What do I do next?

My youngest child is nearly 3 and a half and attends an Early Learning Centre all day and afterschool care after till I finish work.  Tonight I found a spot of blood in her underwear and she was complaining of a sore bottom.  Tonight in the bath she tells me that a boy in an older class at afterschool care took her into one of the other classrooms alone and tickled her bottom and then poked her and it hurt. 

What do I do next? 



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lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lightbee
Update 3

Hi everyone

I've done an update on my blog here: http://www.minti.com/members/lightbee/blog/401732/The-next-day/

I'll keep my blog up-to-date on this as best I can as things unfold. 

Thank you all so much for your support and advice and good wishes and prayers.  It all means so much and really has been helping me to keep afloat right now. 



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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Deborahsc2203
Re: What do I do next?
any news ?????????????????? worried mum here


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cariad
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cariad
Re: What do I do next?

Hi There

Sorry this isn't advice i've not been here long and wouldn't know who on earth to talk too. My point is though is how amazed i am of all the help and support there is here. I have a little girl and it's terrifying what your going through and i hope all the help your getting is keeping you strong.

You all make me proud to be female and a minti chick, when the chips are down you really pull together.

Hang in there and i really hope your little one is doing well. I sent much supoort to you and your family. x



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stacey79
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | stacey79
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thats great ive been checking back every 5 mins to see if anything has happen i so relieved thanks goodness for that i hope every thing works and keep us informed my heart goes out to you and your family and to that little boy good luck and i hope tomorrow is a better day

stacey



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lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lightbee
Update 2

Hi everyone

You'll be pleased to know that the sexual assault unit took things seriously and have just been here taking a statement.  They said this would be considered serious in the range of  complaints and they now report it to Family Services - who they think will also take it very seriously - and talk to the school and talk to the kid and the kid's family who did it.  They explained there are no criminal charges with a child that age (not that I'm wanting that) but they have the same concerns you guys do that he may be being interfered with as well and want to investigate it.

They are also going to put me in touch with a service called Supportlink and have given me a job number and lots of police stuff like that.  The girl police officer was just fantastic and so understanding.  Really glad they sent her.  I'll also talk to the school tomorrow. 

My little girl seems fairly unfazed by it all, thank goodness.  She's gone to sleep quite happily tonight.  Of course, she may end up thinking about it differently in the future, but I guess we'll deal with that then.  Just as long as it never happens again.

Thank you so much to you all for being so supportive and wonderful.  I know this isn't the end, but I hope at least its the end for tonight.



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      Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Libby24
Re: Update 2
am so glad it has turned out like this and that you have been taken seriosly.

good luck with your chat to the center today hope it went well.


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      jenlemen
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | jenlemen
Re: Update 2
if it's any comfort, i had a similar experience with my daughter when she was three.  we were attending a party and a older child bothered her in the bathroom.  i spoke with the child and the mother immediately and my daughter (who was very verbal and almost four) also wanted to talk to the mom about her feelings about the event.  after that, she had some episodes of nervousness going to new people's houses, but it was very short-lived.  i think knowing that i believed her and stood up for her was all she needed to move right past it.  she tells me now (she's 8) that she doesn't remember the incident, though she still feels empowered to hear the story about how we both stood up for her and took her seriously.

you are doing the right thing.  i am convinced that it is not what happens to our kids as much as how we respond to the experiences that shapes them the most.


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      cheleinkal
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cheleinkal
Re: Update 2

Phew.  That is a relief, I'm relieved that they took your concerns seriously.  You can never tell so it's nice to know.  You actually sound as though a weight has been lifted, which I'm glad of also.  I do hope you'll get some sleep tonight.  At least if that boy has been abused the ball is in motion now to help him too.  It's hard to imagine a reason explaining why a 6 year old would come up with this on his own isn't it?

You are indeed an A1 Mummy.  On the ball and dilligent.  I hope you have time this week to sit down and pat yourself on the back a bit.  I think we are all very proud of you.

pat pat pat



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      cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cookclan
Re: Update 2
Oh I am over the moon about this...Leith this is great....The school still should answer as to where they were when this insident occurred...Hunni I am soo glad they came out and talked and I hope that docs is bought into it and the young fella is helped as much as he can be...I am soo sory this happened to your daughter and I would sugges tyou just keep an eye on things with her and maybe talk to a counsellor for her anyway...Just to make sure...Take care of you and yours hunni mwah...My love goes to you.....
Mwah
Angie


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      merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | merlin0903
Re: Update 2

i am so glad to hear it i have been worried and thank god that your little girl hasn't been to upset by it all

good luck with the school tomorrow



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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | nell18-3
Re: Update 2
mwah emailing you now
xxxx


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      TwoLittleAngels
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | TwoLittleAngels
Re: Update 2
THANKYOU!
I can now finally go to bed knowing that he is getting help.
Sorry I really do feel for you but I knew 100% that your little angel was safe and I was just so worried about that boy.

Thanks for getting the help you needed to. Keep me updated on how Gracie is tomorrow :)

Love ya
xxx


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           lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lightbee
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It's all good.  It's really hard when you can see so much pain in a situation and you can't do anything about it.  Fingers crossed that this will make everyone's life better now.


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                madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | madchanny
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great to hear you have gone further with this Leith,
i feel so worried about that child! and i hope that they find whoever is doing this to him :(
So glad your daughter is fine and unphased, hugs and kisses to her for being brave and BIG HUGS to you for going into the police

xx channy xx


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           cazza
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cazza
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absolutely agree and i hope that this wiil be resolved for all involved and i have done a advise on minti tonight and hope all her read it as its important to know for future reference..


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Ngairi
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Ngairi
Re: What do I do next?
God I hope everything goes OK and something gets done for both of these children. My thoughts are with you, be strong. Leisa


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stacey79
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | stacey79
Re: What do I do next?

i am so orry i agree with everyone else it should be done tonight.it is something that needs to be dealt with by the authorities the sooner the better.they say that children learn from there elders so this boy has learnt it from some where and he needs to be helped to but your concernb is your daughter and god knows how many other kids at that carer.

good luck let us no what happens

stacey



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janicepovey
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | janicepovey
Re: What do I do next?

I'm so very sorry for you Leith, but especially your daughter, this has to be every parent's nightmare, my heart breaks for how you must be feeling..

I totally agree with everyone's advice, except  i think this matter should be dealt with tonight by experts. Dont they say the earlier these sort of cases are dealt with, the better  especially as far as evidence goes.

I would be ringing another police station until you got   someone out to see you & your daughter from S.V.U..

My thoughts & love are with you both.

Janice



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      TwoLittleAngels
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | TwoLittleAngels
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I agree. TONIGHT! Not tomorrow, not the day after, TONIGHT! I would drag the kids down there and demand to see someone.

I feel for that little boy too and what hes dealing with right now.


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           madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | madchanny
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Leith, you need to go to the hospital, it does not matter if her bottom isnt sore anymore, the doctors can report this and make a case out of it, if you dont do anything about it by the books, this child that done this to her may still be abused for many years to come!

I know a boy, about 14 yr old (is brain damaged),
he was caught touching his younger brother, he did not know better...
Parents later found out that his own special ed teacher was molesting him...

please report your daughter before its too late for the child who did this to her, as they probably do not know any better..

Love to you,
xx channy


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NickysMumMum
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | NickysMumMum
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O.......M........G.....I'm so sorry this has happened to your little girl...... I agree with everything everyone else has said... I know if I were you, I wouldn't be letting my child go back!!! This is horrific what happened to her and needs to be treated with a great deal of sensitivity so that she doesn't grow up feeling 'icky' about the whole thing. I agree, make sure the authorities deal with this.


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Deborahsc2203
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Deborahsc2203
Re: What do I do next?
alot of great advice here so i wont add anything more as alot has already been said and i agree with also ,, my heart goes out to you and your little girl ,, please if you could just let us know how everything goes if thats possible xxxxxxxx concerned mum here


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lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lightbee
Update

I spoke to a friend of mine who works closely with the police.  His advice was don't wash the underwear and don't give her a bath (too late by then!) and report it to the police.

I rang the police.  The guy on the phone listened to what I told him (what I've already told you guys) and his answer was "What do you want us to do about it?".  I was just livid!  Am I supposed to be telling them their job!  I got quite upset and so the guy on the phone starting going "Don't raise your voice at me".  I am just so upset.  In the end I think I cried enough that he started feeling guilty and started trying to make nice a bit.  He's told me that he will alert the Sexual Assault unit but there's probably noone on duty tonight. 

I haven't taken her to the doctor as I know something of what they do with those sexual assault kits and I wouldn't want to put my daughter through that unless it was absolutely necessary.  She seems in good spirits and she said she's not sore anymore.  I haven't been questioning her.  Been very conscious that how I react will affect her.  But at the same time I don't want to react in a way that makes her think its okay by me.  It is so not.

Tomorrow I am going to talk to the head of the early learning school and take it from there.  I just hope she will take me seriously and do something about this. 



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      MummaBear
4.47 (Good) | May 2007 | MummaBear
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Don't go lightly on them either, it is their job to supervise, to keep your daughter safe, to ensure that other children or adults are not doing anything harmful to your child and they need to know their place! My goodness, what are they doing letting the kids go off unattended like that?  And unfortunately this is standard procedure for the police in these cases to ask what you want done in case you want it left alone.  Hell no!  Also you do what you think is best by your daughter, you know something went on and have the underwear as enough evidence and she knows who it was you can tell them and point the finger at the boy.  He needs help too, but leave that to the school to deal with, it's their job to deal with abuse.  You are doing so well to protect your little angel from how you are feeling and keeping level about what needs to be done.  Just do everything as normal and of course make her feel as safe and secure as she needs to feel.  Her boundaries have been crossed and that's not ok.


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      nell18-3
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | nell18-3
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Oh sweetie
Thats just not on, you must be distraught.
I am so sorry for you and there is nothing I can do from over here
Just know I am with you in spirit
xxx


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      TwoLittleAngels
4.94 (Excellent) | May 2007 | TwoLittleAngels
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OMG
what state are you in? Ill get you the number for someone. That is not good enough! What is with the cops these days!


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           merlin0903
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | merlin0903
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i agree,

the other thing that you could do is maybe call another station or call social services i think that they have a 24hr hotline ....

all i could find was a web site

http://www.ncoss.org.au/

http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/html/about/about.htm

try these and see i hope that this helps

please keep us updated



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Shellshell
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | Shellshell
Re: What do I do next?

Omg

I agree with all here, contact all the authorities you need to, to have it dealt with.

My thoughts are with you and your little girl.

Shelley



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crystalmoon
4.31 (Good) | May 2007 | crystalmoon
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FIRSTLY, dont't wash the under wear,take her to the nearest doctor and get her examined,then contact your nearest juvenile division.....Try not to freak your little possum too much.....How you handle this will have a bearing on how soon she can cope with what has happened to her.Gosh Leith I feel for you all,and yes the other child needs help but I feel he can wait.Your Baby cannot.My heart is with you all I am here for you Hugs Crystal


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tassiebiarch
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | tassiebiarch
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omg,that is terrible well i agree with what everyone else has said. firstly get your daughter checked , make sure that she is alright. second i would be asking an explination from the childcare centre,and i mean ask question this there fault aswell how can they not see 2 kids disapeer into a store room, wasn't she upset/hurting then thats disgusting and they need to pay thirdly i would be going to the police this should be sorted out by them this kid could be doing this to other kids now and in the future

If this was my daughter heads would be rolling no one would ever touch my daughter in anyway

I feel for you so much and would  hate to be in your situation

Do what you feel is best but i think that what all members are saying needs to be done



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cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cookclan
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Okay some might agree with me some might but here is my two cents worth on this....Leith you should call the CPIU tonight and explain to them what has happened..They will take it from there...They are the child protection investigation unit that used to be called JAB...they are part of the police...Do not discuss to much with your daughter just tell the polise what has been told to you freely...Hunni there is a problem when a child of 6 does this sort of thing to another child...There is real problems for this young fella and this will be investigated throughly by the CPIU...As hard as it may seem for you not to discuss things with your daughter it is something that can cause problems in the future if this young boy is being touched etc....Hope this makes sense to you..I agree with  twolittleangels  there is two vitims here  for sure....If you need to talk hunni I am here just minti mail me....
Mwah
Angie


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      lightbee
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | lightbee
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Just tried to send you a minti-mail but it's playing up and I think I sent you eighteen hundred of them.  Sorry!  I'll catch up with you soon.


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           cookclan
5.00 (Excellent) | May 2007 | cookclan
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nah not quite but there was 40 of them LOL....
I got them but hehe...
Mwah
Angie