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MummaBear | June 2007

I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=273269

Have a read of this then let me know your thoughts on it.  I was angered and disgusted by it.  The poor parents were not treated properly and that baby was treated with utter disrespect!



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ChauncysMom
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | ChauncysMom
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted
That is madness.  Pure madness.  Even if the state regards the child as "tissue" (which I even shudder to type), some kind of consideration should be taken for the people involved.  They certainly should not have been treated in the way they were.  It's almost unfathomable.


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natansey
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | natansey
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted
OMG this is discusting, shame on the hospital.

One of my friends miscarried at 10 weeks, she also had her baby at home and took it to the hospital and the hospital kept her in overnight to chek her and she asked what was going to happen the baby and they gave her a few choices and she ended up taking the baby home in a beautifly made box, that the hospital had made and her aunty died just before she missed carried and she buried the baby with the aunty


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mumof10
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | mumof10
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I Just read the article that is absolutely disgusting! The poor parents of this child yes i say chilod as there would have been a heart beat! How can medical proffessionals as they like to call themselves do that to a grieving family! I can say if it was me i would have  sued them for  their treatment of the family! The other children would be just as hurt as the parents would need to explain it to them also! What did the hospital think that the miscarriage was that of a animal. Only animals get buried in back yards! My heart is trulyt out there for the parents! The hospital should be sued and investigated properley on thgeir treatment of humans wether adults,children or unborn babies! They must be a vet hospital the way they treayted these parents! It makes you wonder how many other times this has happened and no one knows about it! That will make us all wary of hospitals in the furt\re i say!! hugs to the family


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lisasmith140483
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | lisasmith140483
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted

i know this s disgusting and something needs to be done about it.

those parents suffered the most traumatic loss and in the worst situation at home and to get no support and no validation that they had lost their child, its very wrong. If they had lost that baby in the hospital while admitted it would have been a very different story i mean what about her physical condition? did she even pass everything?

They didnt even offer counceling. Its just wrong and it makes me sick. I really feel for them



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stuterri
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | stuterri
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted

OMG..

I really feel for those poor parents to go through something so traumatic and to have that happen to them is totally harsh, disrespectful, and plain rude. I am in total shock... I was crying reading that. I don't know how anyone could be that heartless to someone that had just lost a child.



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Libby24
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Libby24
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted
OMG this was awful.

I am in total Shock


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kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | kseers
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It is disgusting!  Maybe they have a legal standpoint but they need to learn a few people skills and a bit of compassion!  This is a baby - that couple's child - and they need to be comforted and be allowed to grieve.  Obviously having the baby home is better than sending it out with the tissue waste, which no doubt they could have done.  But to just hand it back and tell them to go home - what about counselling, what about contacting a chaplain, what about at least giving them the details of a funeral home or telling them "this is what some couples do" and offering info about a burial ceremony.  It doesn't take much to offer any of these things!  From the sounds of it other hospitals have systems in place - why are they so out of touch?


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      MummaBear
4.46 (Good) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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At the antenatal class I went to they said about miscarriage and stillbirths as part of the class.  They said that these can happen for various reasons or for no apparent reason at all.  They also said what the options for miscarriage were and one of them was that in some cultures they make a stew out of the feotus and eat it.  I was nearly sick!  One of the things was to bury the foetus under a tree in the backyard, but I guess that's if you own the home.  Not really what you'd want to do if you're renting.  They did give the option of a cremation but said that a burial wasn't an option because it would have to have a certificate of death for that to happen and they don't have a birth certificate before 20 weeks.


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BrightonBelle
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | BrightonBelle
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I am lost for words, my sympathy goes to the grieving parents.


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AZMom
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | AZMom
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted
That is outrageous!!! I cannot believe that anyone could be so thoughtless. I really feel for the parents, I hope they take it further. No one should have to go through this. 


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llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | llmunchkin
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I sure hope this gets taken further.  The hospital is negligent for having such thoughtless, unfeeling policies, and also for hiring such heartless, mindless, uncaring idiots.  It is such a heart breaking, gut wrenching story, we must see what we can do as a group to ensure that these policies and procedures are changed.


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mom2jedd
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | mom2jedd
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What do you even write to answer that article. I cannot believe this happens in a civilized country. It's not like she gave birth in a small uncivilized hut in a remote area for crying out loud!!!!! I have had 2 miscarrigaes, they were very early I can't imaging being far enough along to have given birth to a small small baby only to be treated like that. GOd have mercy on them for what they did to those poor people. It sounds like a lwsuit waiting to happen.

Jessica



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rockclimbr4400
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | rockclimbr4400
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This is crazy! These poor grieving parents! It is just so sad that b/c of the babies age he wasn't treated as a baby. It doesn't matter if you are 12 weeks or 30, a miscarrige is a misscarriage, and is a sad time for a family.


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Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Kellzacar
Re: I know this isn't a question but I'm disgusted
OMG! ! ! !

Having lost a child I can only think as to what these poor parents must be going through.

The hospital really needs to be dragged over the coals on this . . . . How dare they do something so inhumane!

Do we have an email address for this hospital so we can ALL let the hospital know how outrageous their treatment was!!!!

Cheerless Kellz


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      llmunchkin
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | llmunchkin
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Here is a link to contact the hospital... Do a bit more research first though, maybe we should put together something we are all happy with and sign it collectively.   It would need to be well written by someone who knows what they are talking about. 

Not pointing the finger mate - but do you have the time?

www.nt.gov.au/health/hospital_svs/tesn/royaldarwinhospital/contact.htm


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           Kellzacar
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Kellzacar
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I have started a petition which I have now emailed out to every contact i have on msn - hopefully it will get around to everyone . . . If not the person to send a petition to is
 
Mr Robin Micheal
General Manager
Royal Darwin Hospital
 rdh.ths@nt.gov.au

Thanks Kellz


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                sluxton
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | sluxton
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Great work, guys.  Even if we can send this link of our comments to the hospital they might address their human rights issues.  Before doing so, though, I suggest we get permission from Minti site co-ordinators.  Remember, just because channel 9 reported this, doesn't always mean that is the complete story.  But the hospital should definitely respond to it and give their side.  Noone should be treated like this.  If anyone knows the family at all, please send our support from Minti.

 



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                     MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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I sent the link to an ICQ contact who has no kids, the response was "What did the parents do though? Hospitals wouldn't do this for no reason they must have asked for it" and I just think no matter what they did, that little baby deserved better respect then he got.  Grrr, I don't care what the parents were like, none of them, the baby included, deserved this!


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luckyone
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | luckyone
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how heart breaking is this , i really don't know what say . Its hard enough to m c  and feel the lose of the baby  . Then going to hosiptal and to be told to bury your child in the backyard  how curl  could they be this mum and dad .

I just hope  the hosiptal  gets whats coming to them . my heart goes out to this family   and please the funnarl  home  had more heart and help this family  through tis grief .



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bittenbythelovebug
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | bittenbythelovebug
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Huh....That so does not suprise me!!! My twins were born at the same hospital and well, I guess things haven't changed. I feel for that poor lady and her family, how they were treated is just apualing. The hospital should be made to apologise and compensate them for the trauma they've been put through.


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anon
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | anon
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I don't know what to say really. It breaks my heart to hear such a horrific story. In my opinion if he/she has a heart beat they are considered viable and should be treated as the doctors and nurses who treated the mother would like to be treated. They need to put themselves in the patients shoes and really think how they would like to be treated if they were in that situation. Not that I am wishing that upon any one.
My thoughts are with that poor family.


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Gypsie
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Gypsie
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OMG..That is horrid.

At least the funeral parlour was able to assist them in their time of grief.



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emmie
4.65 (Excellent) | June 2007 | emmie
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i felt ill before and now my belly is turning i feel sick omg i dont know wat to say i am shocked.


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georgiepar
3.74 (Good) | June 2007 | georgiepar
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we have empathy for the family said the hospital...NOT TO MUCH DAMN EMPATHY..... the staff at that hospital should be ashamed of  them selves. i hope by some chance one of them is reading this and if you are ..WAKE UP TO YOUR F#*#*##*G SELF ANF GROW A HEART.


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mummy2girls
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | mummy2girls
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after trying to sort myself out after reading this terrible tale, i don't know what to write...

as someone who as suffered a miscarriage i am absolutely disgusted with the treatment of this woman and her husband...

i miscarried at 12 weeks and was offered the opportunity for my baby to have a post mortem and a cremation at no finanicial cost to myself...

unfortunately the post mortem provided us with no answers and just made me feel guilty that i may have done something wrong that made this terrible thing happen to my precious baby...

the service at the crematorium was a great help, we were able to choose the denomination of the priest and the baby was in a baby coffin, i expected to see a little square box!  but was relieved to find that our baby even though only 12 weeks into the pregnancy was treated as just that... our baby.

the only thing that i purchased for the service was flowers, three ivory roses of different lengths to represent myself, my husband and our daughter, our local florist was wonderful and extremely sympathetic, withoout being patronising.  the roses were intertwined with fine baby blue and baby pink ribbon, as unfortunately due to the nature of my miscarriage the tests on our baby were inconclusive in sexing baby.

the hospital were generally very helpful and although i had a problem with one of the drs everyone in general was lovely and helped me greatly.  i was shocked at the offer of post mortem and service but apparently more places provide this even in early miscarriages.  not all ask, sometimes you have to be the one to ask and i don't think that every health authority does this free of charge as mine did.

i'm so glad that although a horrible experience as miscarriage is, i had the help of a supportive health authority, who also offered free counselling to me and my family if we wanted it.  i wish everyone who had the misfortune to suffer this experience had the support that i had, but most of all i wish none of us every had to experience this terrible loss in the first place.

my heart goes out to the parents in the article and i hope that with time they get some peace of mind and that they cherish their children every day, as i do...

i know have another daughter, who is my angel, i cherish my girls and thank god every day for the precious gifts that he provided for me when i was blessed with my girls....

lol xxxx.



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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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Hugs to you and although an awful experience, I only wish this service was offered to all.


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Tadexpress
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | Tadexpress
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I can not belief how heartless this was, I am so shocked that in this day and age such a thing should happen. My sympathies to the family and my contempt to those who think that this type of behaviour is acceptable.


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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There are still people out there who don't believe it classes as a baby.  I wonder at what point they consider it a baby and not "tissue"? I still keep going back to the part where the baby had fingernails.  That is just disgusting that this baby was called "tissue" and not an infant.


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MumKim
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MumKim
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I am thankful to say that it doesn't happen that way at King Edward hospital in Perth WA. We lost our daughter Baylee there at 16 and a half weeks. That was three days before Christmas two years ago. The hospital chaplin arranged a naming ceremony and produced a naming certificate. Baylee was cremated by the hospital and we were given counselling when we picked up her ashes. Counselling was offered before and after.


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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That's very good of them.  That's how it should have been because a baby is a baby and the family and that baby deserve the respect of a funeral.  It also gives closure to the family.  I'm sorry for your loss, but I'm glad the hospital was good to you.


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mrs-connell
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | mrs-connell
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OMG that is absolutely appalling no person should have to be told to bury the child in their back yard just because the baby is not 20 weeks. If I was these people I would be seeing my lawyer & suing the hospital.


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      MummaBear
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | MummaBear
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Legally they did nothing wrong.  Morally, it goes against everything moral!  It had me in tears to think that the baby was fully formed, named, then just sent out like trash.  I hope they're ashamed of themselves and don't let it happen again.


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madchanny
5.00 (Excellent) | June 2007 | madchanny
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i read that this morning on my homepage... horriffic isnt it?  my mum and i were discussing this subject and apparently they only bury stillborn/misscarriages after 5months gestation... this was 4 months 1 week! you can see an almost developed baby! its not right and the hospital should have had more to offer than a bloody kidney dish and tell them to go bury it in their backyard! Its like they were telling the greiving parents to handle it as if it were the family pet...
I feel so bad for what the family is going through, deepest sympathy to them xx


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      MummaBear