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cassaustin | April 2008

He Just Wont Sleep!!

Any ideas on how i can get my 8 1/2 month old to sleep thru the night?

He has no trouble getting to sleep, it's the staying alseep part that is not working so well. For the past week he has been waking every hour and a half - two hours. It is draining me, and i dont know what i can do to help him sleep better.

Please Help!!



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lisam
April 2008 | lisam
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

I have a 11m old little girl and I'm going threw this at the monent,  I was at my wits ends until minti mums gave me some great ideas, change nappy, make sure she is warm or not to cold, dummy,  panadol, bath before bed, tea latter , and bed at 7pm, as she was having milk threw the night  up to 3 bottles I was feeling so drained and tired.

I tried all this and it kept on happening so I am now trying to shorten her cap naps threw the day as she would sleep all day if i let her.  Maybe if you havent tried any of these you could give it a go .

Good luck



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Arna
April 2008 | Arna
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

Is he going to bed overtired?  We have learned that our girls will have more dramas going to bed if they are overtired and try to avoid later bed times.

You don't mention any thing about times and naps etc, so hard to know, but lack of noise can be a problem too.  At night, having a background noise like a radio or tv will help, and can be gradually turned down.  You see, noise travels better at night and any loud or sharp noises will disturb him more easily, having the background noise muffles these other sounds.

The other thing is he might be teething, so that would cause disturbed sleep too.



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Tadexpress
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | Tadexpress
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

Its always difficult when your are exhausted and running on empty. My suggestion is the same as the others eliminate the obvious and then try panadol.

My grandson like my kids were good at going to sleep but were woken by wet nappies my suggestion was to double nappy (cloth) and that saw mine and now my grandson through the night. with a larger sized pilcher over the top. If you are using disposable ones you may need to be creative and use a super sanitary pad as well as the nappy because if they are wet they are likely to be uncomfortable and cold. That may sound odd but I suggested it to a friend of my daughters who has a daughter and she has had success.



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mum2b84
3.50 (Good) | April 2008 | mum2b84
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

If you have eliminated the usual, hot, cold, teething. Have you tried giving him a little panadol to see if he is feeling under the weather? Also might he be hungry? Maybe giving him a little more food during the day. Or even 2 bottles before bed. Also maybe shortening his day sleeps.

Thats probably what I would do. Go through the list and hope something works. I have no idea :(



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mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | mumof2b
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

I know how you feel. At this age I took Zak (my oldest) to Tresillian a he just wasn't sleeping, it was made worse by me rocking him to sleep. But I was beside myself with exhaustion. 

Before you do something like this try doing a process of elimination......I know your exhausted but it will be easier in the long run. Make sure he's not cold, either add an extra blanket of a night or put him in a sleep bag to go to bed. What time does he go to bed? Do you give him a bottle or breastfeed before bed? Maybe you could try a top up feed when he wakes the first time but just try some water, you may have to try this for about a week though. How many sleeps is he having during the day? Maybe you could try and keep him up for an extra 30-45 mins, as long as he isn't totally tired of course.

But you know your child better than anyone else and only you can know if he's just got a sleeping problem or if it's because he's cold or hungry.

If you think he's just got trouble settling himself after waking then talk to your Community nurse about Tresillian.

I hope he settles for you.

Amanda xxx



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      cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cassaustin
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

Thanks Amanda

I give him a bottle before he goes to bed. I found that he was waking up about an hour after i put him down when i breastfeed him. On the bottle he usually sleeps for 2-3 hours before he wakes. But that is when the fun starts.

I haven't tried water yet. If he is really bad or just wont settle, i cave in and put him on the boob for a feed. I wonder if that is doing damage too. He always has a drink before he goes to sleep.

You can talk to a tresillian nurse on msn now. They are online from 9am, so i'm going to see if they can help me today.



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           mumof2b
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | mumof2b
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

I know it's hard....I've been there. But yes the boob or even bottle of formula/milk will do more damage as he'll get into the habit of waking just for a feed.

That's excellent they're on msn.........Tresillian was my life saver, I ended up going in to a centre and doing the week stay. I recommend them to anyone whos child is having trouble settling. 

I hope they can help you Cass.



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ajv00
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | ajv00
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Hi Cass,

I'm sorry to hear that you are having a hard time of it.    My bubs has always been a good sleeper but still wakes a couple of times during the night.

Anyway maybe try tiring him out before you put him to bed.  Or increasing how much he eats.  He he eating 3 meals yet?   My bubs has 3 good meals and also 4 bottles, during the day. 

Go to the local supermarket and get some johnson's bedtime bath stuff.  They say that it is proven to help baby sleep better.   Just put a bit in his bath at night and it should help him sleep.  I don't know how good it is but worth a shot!

I hope he is not teething again!  If he is maybe give some bonjella b4 he goes to sleep.  

Is he waking 'cause he is too cold/hot??  My bubs sometimes wakes during the night 'cause of this.  He always kicks his blankets off.

I hope this is some help and he gets to sleeping real soon.  The last straw would be sleep school.



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      cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cassaustin
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

Hi Angie

Thanks for your reply. Yes he is eating 3 meals a day now, plus snacks!! I am trying to wean him off the boob, so he is having 2 bottles and 2 or 3 breast feeds a day. I tried tiring him out, that seems to make it worse!! I have no idea how!!

I havent tried that baby bath. I might give it a go tonight.

Oh god i have no idea if he is teething, he could be! It could be his cold. It could be anything. I cant do it anymore.

I am thinking that he might be cold coz he seems to be in the coldest room in the house. Maybe i should put a heater in there on low or something.



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      ajv00
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | ajv00
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

BTW you may have to try a roll over feed at about 10.30pm, for awhile and see how this goes.



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           cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cassaustin
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

he wakes up before then... but do you mean actually getting him up myself for a feed?



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                ajv00
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | ajv00
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

He will still be asleep (hopefully) gently pick him up without waking and give him a bottle or the breast and then put him back with out waking.  If he is hungry he will drink/eat in his sleep.  LOL



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                     cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cassaustin
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Thanks, I will try that too.



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                          ajv00
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | ajv00
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let us know how you go.  Hope it works for you.  A small bar heater is also a good idea, and an extra blanket!



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TheMentorMom
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | TheMentorMom
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Does he have any teeth coming in?  It could be teething.  That is one possibility.  The other might be he needs more to eat?  My son woke frequently around this age, so we increased his food intake and it seemed to help.  Good luck to you :)



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      cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cassaustin
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

He has just had 2 more teeth come thru last weekend. He has had a cold too, but he has been doing this for alot longer than just this week. It has just gotten ALOT worse this week. He eats 3 meals a day plus a biscuit or piece of fruit as a snack sometimes.



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amazon
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | amazon
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

Hi I had the same problem with my son and he didnt sleep through until about 18mths old. I was like the walking dead had no energy cranky and depressed. Im now pregnant with my second child and hopefully wont have the same issues as I have learnt there is help out there.

If you can talk to your doctor first to rule out any medical issues and they can refer you to community organisations that can help with getting your baby to sleep in some places you can even stay and they will help you work out the sleeping issues, dont suffer with it anymore get help as soon as you can,



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      cassaustin
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cassaustin
Re: He Just Wont Sleep!!

Thanks. I think if he does it again tonight i will take him tomorrow. I am seriously at my wits end!!



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