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Considering | April 2008

Is having children a selfish act?

The planet is in trouble - climate change, 3rd world & 1st world poverty continues to get worse and HIV is on the verge of wiping out some African countries.

In this context can we honestly say that having children is not a selfish act - are we contributing to the problem - are we putting our own desires ahead of what is really good for the long term future of our planet?



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anniebabe
June 27th | anniebabe
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

no definately not  having children is a natural process .

i think we need to look at the unnatural processes that have contributed to the destruction of our planet .

our desires certainly have caused the destruction but not  the desire to have children. that is why we can only have children during "child bearing years" that is why us females have "milk" in our boosoms. what is selfish is our desire to make ourselves lazy. we must own a car we must have heating air con. we must throw out good quality clothes we must throw out good food we must have the latest furniture we must have the latest technology we must have money we must trick others so we can have more money we must pollute the air. we must fulfil our desires and be promiscious  and the list goes on.

there is a natural process in life. yes we are more fortunate to have luxuries than our forefathers that have become a necessity like a roof over our heads instead of living in caves to protect ourselves from the elements of the climate. but we have gone beyond that we walk around in the middle of winter with sleeveless tops because we have the heating going. not just domestic but industrial 

notice not once have i mentioned children. because i dont believe they are the cause nor do i believe they largely contribute to the destructon of the earth.

its not babies that are to blame for throw away nappies. we adult humans created and demanded to have these for our convenience

hiv really doesnt have anything to do with having babies. thats more our promiscious lifestyle and our alternative choices

annie

 



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kathryn-solaris
April 2008 | kathryn-solaris
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Of course it is selfish, for the majority of the population it is extremely selfish. However, it is something that we are basically programed to do. It is just too frikin hard to fight biology unless you wanna go tell your parents off for having you too... don't know bout you but I am just to chronicly lazy for that LOL!

As humans we do owe our planet our life just as any other creature and thus should take care of it as best we can by living in harmony with nature where ever possible. However, we also have this horrid thing called emotional consciousness which plays these philosophical tricks on our brains and causes us to question our own existence and purpose. Regardless if you believe in a divine plan for us, or are more scientific in your approach to these questions, there is no escape of the underlying "primal" urges. These include those reproductive urges and basically anything that will result in the continuation and strengthening of the species.

All creatures on this planet fight an uphill battle of survival including us. Ponder this, perhaps our emotional conciousness will one day surpass the primal parts of the brain (through evolution or otherwise) as a method of rectifying the situation. I believe that the human species is on the verge of this realisation, thus your's and many others questions regarding these matters; and that the problems you have stated will diminish with time and education. It is that hope of the better world that allows me to embrace my conciousness accept these questions and do all i can to solve them whislt still being a good parent, (ie. accpting the urges) take a look at your question from a different perspective and you will see what i am rambling about. cheers from becca!



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MotherofJWE
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | MotherofJWE
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

We are designed to have children, sometimes we even have them without planning them.  Doing what we were designed to do is not selfish



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LibbyS
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | LibbyS
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

"A baby is a blank cheque, made payable to the human race"

If we don't have hope, what do we have left?

 



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Arna
4.22 (Good) | April 2008 | Arna
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Of course having children is a selfish act.  But, without having children, there is no future for our world.  All we can do is raise our children with the values that are positive and will contribute to improve our world.

I know there are days when I wish I'd never had  children, because I feel as though I'm failing them, but I know that they are our future and that I am contributing positively to society.  I just hope my girls all turn out ok.



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sahmmy131
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | sahmmy131
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

I have to say that if everyone stops having children, the human race will die out and the only creatures left on the planet will be wildlife. And while there are some very intelligent animal species out there, we are the only species that ponders our existence. We are the only species that seeks meaning in life. Therefore, without us, while the planet may eventually be a cleaner place, it will lack meaning. Certainly we can have too many children and fail to teach them to care for the planet carefully and that would be selfish. But I don't think the act of having children is in itself selfish.



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mummyof4
4.00 (Good) | April 2008 | mummyof4
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Honestly... What a stupid question! do you have any children? If you do why? If you think it is selfish to have kids stop and think what the world would be like.... um... thats right their wouldnt be one would their. I think Samantha said it all very well said samantha! I couldnt agree more with her.  Sorry if I seem to sound rude but I am honest and I will give my opinion, this is a question where their would be alot of agree and disagree, children are the most preciouse beautiful things that a person could have, and also a wonderful gift experencing child birth, I also think with technology these days is getting pretty advanced so who know in 20 years time their might be a cure for aids, cancer and perhaps peace you just never know.

I could not imagine my life without my 4 beautiful kids that I adore so much they make me laugh and they are so bright, clever,and they come out with the most unexpected things!!!

Take care xxx



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ClayCook
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | ClayCook
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

nice try 'considering' - you can not honestly use this as an excuse for not having children. it is actually the most unselfish act you can do, as you then have to care for this child selflessly for quite a while.



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      cheekymonkey
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | cheekymonkey
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Ahhh, what can I say but..................

applause

 



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           mummyof4
April 2008 | mummyof4
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Well said!!! cheekymonkey



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samantha
4.68 (Excellent) | April 2008 | samantha
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

the reason the planet is in trouble is due to greed, and stupidity, not the sort you are talking bout (haveing children is not greedy, as a matter of a fact its the opposite, and if you were an intelligent person you would not have asked such a question). the ones that are makeing all the billions of dollars buying and makeing all the polution when we could all have renuable sources of energy, are the ones to blame. dosn't matter how many children you have the ones that are useing the most power and makeing the most polution are the ones jetting round and makeing more power plants and makeing more cars. if we all stopped driveing round all the time, jetting round all the time, if we all put solar panels on our homes, if we all had rain water tanks attached to our homes and so on there would not be a problem, but because of greed there is a big problem. we all need to do our bit but i am afraid that may not be enough. there are still so many people in denial over the whole thing.



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      MotherofJWE
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | MotherofJWE
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

The reason the world is in trouble is due to our fall from grace, our sinful nature.  Having children though is not considered a sin, so therefore cannot be considered selfish



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      boredmum
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | boredmum
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Well said Samantha!!!!!!!!



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Ngairi
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | Ngairi
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

No I don't think it is a selfish act. Who knows what our children will be or grow up to do. My son could be the one who can find a cure for HIV that really works. Someone could have a child that will unite the world in peace.

If nobody had any more children, and we all died, what good would the planet be then? There have been many instances through the years of diseases that have spread and killed thousands. But did we stop producing...no someone was born who found a cure for a disease.

It is only in teaching our children what is happening and hopefully get them thinking about ways to change, as has been done for centuries, that we are helping the planet.

So in all no I don't think we are selfish.



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      MotherofJWE
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | MotherofJWE
Re: Is having children a selfish act?


"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." John 16:33
 

Yes the world is in a mess, but its important to remember it has always been in a mess and always will be - regardless of whether or not we continue to have children

 



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jenaya04
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | jenaya04
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

I think this is a very interesting question but of course one that will never have a right or wrong answer. I guess in a way, yes we are being selfish having kids when the planet is in such bad shape. How bad will things be in another 50, 100 years? We will be gone but what about our kids and their kids? On another side tho, what if we didnt have kids..the planet would continue to get even worse. We continue to wreck it as we age but there would be no younger generation to think of new ideas to clean up our mess. Having kids full stop could be looked upon as being selfish...did this child ask to be born? We chose for it to happen really...just another way to look at it..Good question tho..certainly one to ponder!!



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kseers
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | kseers
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

I don't think so.  If we don't raise children responsibly then maybe yes, but I hope that my children will be some that take the situation seriously and can do something about it one day.



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stacey79
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | stacey79
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

The way the world is now,if we teach our children the way we can hekp the world the world would be a much better place to be in. they can learn from our mistakes  and make it a better planet.

but it all falls on what we teach our children and they say that children learn from us so in retrospect it makes us better aswell  because we want to set a good example for our kids we are doing less damage to earth and so its safe to say we are molding our children in to people that respect and know how to look after the earth.

love stace



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mummy17
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | mummy17
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

I feel that the next generation will learn from and do a better job than the last, our children are our gift to the earth...



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monyq83
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | monyq83
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

very interesting point.

yes, i think we are selfish, but i also recognise that  in every person is the need to procreate, its one of our basic instincts that from day dot were instilled upon every human at the time of their creation.

therefore, i dont think we really realise just how much damage we are doing with our selfish wants and desires, its more a subconcious selfishness than anything.



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MotherofJWE
5.00 (Excellent) | April 2008 | MotherofJWE
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

"...Now you must have many children and repopulate the earth.  Yes, multiply and fill the Earth." - Genesis 9:7

Of course this was written to Noah after the flood has destroyed the entire population of the Earth except for Noah and his family.  However God wants humans to have children so that he may be glorified.  To deliberately choose not to...THAT would be selfish!



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      whitelighter491
June 27th | whitelighter491
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Well, yes, I think it is selfish given the overpopulation of the world. However, I don't think that means it's wrong to have children. As pointed out, if people stopped having children altogether the human race would die out so obviously some people have to reproduce, and you have just as much right as other people do.

By the way, don't pay any attention to mummyof4. It's not a stupid question at all. It's a perfectly legitimate concern and I commend you for asking it. I guess there's got to be a smartass in every crowd.



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           User227
July 2nd | User227
Re: Is having children a selfish act?

Having children is selfish and inconsiderate. Climate change will drastically increase in the next few decades, scientists don't believe that we will survive the next 100 years if we continue to rely on fossil fuels (coal, gas and oil), cause massive deforestation and domesticate ruminants for food and clothing (the methane that these non-human animals produce is responsible for around 18% of all green house gas emissions, not to mention the amount of arable land and water needed to grow crops just to fatten them up). We would need 3 more Earths to sustain us if we did, it would be even worse if everyone in the world lived like people in developed countries do. This is an issue that I've read alot about and I cannot do it justice in only a few paragraphs, the next few decades will be like something out of a science fiction novel, floods, drought, increased disease etc. We have 10 years to make a serious difference and even if we were wiped off the face of the planet today, the gge's that we're already responsible for will negatively impact the eco-system for another 1000 years. Considering that the average American child has a carbon footprint of 9441 tonnes, yes, it's extremely selfish to bring more children into an already overpopulated world..

Therefore, without us, while the planet may eventually be a cleaner place, it will lack meaning

The Earth will always have 'meaning' for other sentient animals. Everything that distinguishes us from other animals (music, art, symbolic communication etc.) is only relevant or impressive to us. All sentient beings value their lives, we all want to avoid suffering and to experience pleasure or happiness and we are all basically the same in this respect. I'm not necessarily for full-blown human extinction but we should definitely avoid reproducing for the next 30-35 years. After that, it should be 'one or none', until we can lower our population to less than one billion. We're morally obligated to improve the quality of life for existing humans, not to create more humans. Why create more children considering how many already existing orphans need good homes?

Another thing I'd like to refute is the idea that we are programmed to reproduce or that doing so is morally acceptable just because it's "natural". As material beings, everything we do is "natural", including rape, homicide, war etc., the 'appeal to nature' argument is a fallacy and overly selective, considering that everyone who's posted in this forum most likely lives in an artificially heated or air conditioned home, owns a computer, buys their food instead of hunting-gathering it etc. Secondly, we are 'programmed' to want sex, not to want to procreate, procreation is just a consequence of sex. We learn that we are 'supposed' to have children who will pass on our genes, carry on the family name etc. We have an innate desire to be altruitic and nurturing but we tend to reserve it for ingroup members, we learn that biological offspring are 'in-group' in a way that non-genetic offspring cannot be but you wouldn't instinctually know who was genetically related to you if you didn't acquire that information at some point in your life. I don't expect most people to take my argument seriously but it's a shame because we could tackle both climate change and poverty if people could put their selfish, culturally conditioned desire to reproduce aside and look at the big picture.

 



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