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shashawnee | May 19th

Violent teenage rages

My daughter is 13yrs old (14 in Oct) and has at times been very hard to handle. This all started when she was young with extreme temper tantrums lasting hours. She would curl up in a corner and scream 'I hate you' over and over til she was hoarse.

About 6 years ago she started running away. The first time, she got on her bike and rode through 2 suburbs to get to a house of a friend of mine at the time.  The 'tantrums' continued, getting more sever each time, over the years. Then 2 years ago she ran away twice in as many weeks. Each time I went and got her within a few hours. The second time I called the police as I thought they may be able to talk some sense into her. That didn't happen.

The next time she ran away she was at her year seven camp in the country. This was a place she knew well as her and her grandfather would camp out there alot. So she ran away from the camp and walked many kilometers into the nearby country town (at night) and got someone there to call her pop to come and get her. (This one I didn't know about until I happen to come across my eldest daughter the next day and she told me!)

Well, now these 'tantrums' have escalated to what happened on Sunday night.

I asked her to go to her room, as she was taking a bad mood out on her 4yr old brother. She told me NO! so I repeated my request and got the same answer. So I turned her TV show off, picked up her homework she was working on and repeated my request. That's where she flew into a rage and hit me. Then stomped off to her room. I followed to talk to her and all hell broke loose.

She kicked me, threw shoes at me, punched me,  screamed at me, threatened that if I touched her she would have me for child abuse, Spat at me! and then tried to climb out her window. That's where I grabbed her and pulled her back in and locked the window, so she screamed at me some more kicked me in the stomach and took off out the front door.

I found her 1/2 an hour later at her friends sisters place in the next street. She came home and locked herself in her room.

I will give her some credit, the next day (yesterday) she came out of her room and apologised and asked if she had hurt me when she kicked me (I have just had my appendix out).

I thought she was over it but she has started again with her defiant attitude and treating her brother like dirt.

Sorry that this is so long winded but I need to get it out and ask for some advice. I don't know what else to do. These tantrums are getting worse and I fear for my son. She seems to hate him one minute and the next she treats him like a king.

What do I do?



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MrsSanders
May 20th | MrsSanders
Re: Violent teenage rages

Hmm I would seriously be looking to have your daughter refered for Pshycological Evaluation. How does your daughter cope with school is her work good, excellent or poor. How does she cope with her friends and other life situations? Seems she found camp difficult to handle? The history you give us points to an inner frustration that she does not understand. This could be physical, emotional or developmental. Please dont let the doc phob you off with, normal teen angst, you know in your heart this is not so. Councelling is all very well if one knows what is causing the behaviour, but if there is an underlying and undiscovered issue, then counceling will not help in the long run. Have you ever considered an Autistic Spectrum Disorded? That can range from Dyslexia, ADD/ADHD, Aspergers, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, and so on and so forth. Many of these issues can cause severe frustration if undetected, as the child views the world in a very,very diffirent way to the "Norm". In a teen who has issues that are undetected and unadressed these frustrations can and do erupt into violence. Really dont know if this will help, but it may be worth considering.

Best Wishes, Winnie.xx



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cathbusymum
May 20th | cathbusymum
Re: Violent teenage rages

My daughter was just like this. She does not hate you or her brother but  is crying out for help the only way she knows how.

Do you have a family/ community centre near you? They can help arrange family counselling. I would see the school counselor as well. You can can also talk to the youth liason officer at your local police station. They can arrange to speak to her about the consequences of her behavior.

If your daughter goes missing for 24 hours, you are required by law to report it to police. They will make enquires as to her whereabouts. I found this helped, as her friends got annoyed with the police always ringing them. They would then not let her stay with them and tell her to go home.

It will take time and patience to see any change. Change will most likely be gradual anyway. Tell her every day that you love her, even if she doesn't respond.

Good luck and feel free to minti mail me anytime.



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Practical-Princess
May 19th | Practical-Princess
Re: Violent teenage rages

I know a woman who's daughter used to be just like this. She arranged counselling & would have a case worker come to her house & pick her daughter up to take her out for the day. I don't know exactly who she went to for help, but you could ask a doctor, DOCS, or your local community centre. Just explain what is going on & they can arrange help for you.

Has she ever been assessed by a doctor? Teens do have problems, but this is quite severe. I'd be taking her to a paediatrician with all this. There may be a medical reason for all this.

There is a very good pyschologist who specialises in teen problems - his website is www.michaelcarr-gregg.com.au He has books to help deal with teens. But, really, go to someone for help, & have her assessed by a paediatrician. All the best hun.



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      shashawnee
May 20th | shashawnee
Re: Violent teenage rages

Hi, thanks for your input. My daughter has been seen by our doctor and had blood tests and a check up and nothing was found. Wished it was that easy.

I phoned her counsellor today and spoke with her and she told me that she knew of the fight but not the exact details, so she will try to draw it out of my daughter in their next session. My daughter started counselling this week and her counsellor is a lovely lady so hopefully that will help a bit.



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Arna
May 19th | Arna
Re: Violent teenage rages

And my parents thought I was terrible!  Teens are unpredictable creatures at best, and down right selfish demons at worst.

I'm not sure how to help you with this one.  Next time she does lash out and hit and kick you like that, call the police.  Going through all the hoops they will put her through might make her see that she can't treat you this way.

As for child abuse, she has to prove it, not you having to disprove it.  Emotional blackmail is one of the most powerful tools that our kids can use against us, we just have to remember that they don't really mean it.

Oh, and next time she pulls that child abuse one, tell her that what she is doing to you is abuse too.  Even through a tantrum at her when she doesn't do what you want.  Not like hers, but roll on the floor toddler style and see how she reacts.  Oh make it as public as possible, teens don't like being embarrassed by their parents, and if  you did this out the front of the house, I'm sure she'd stop her behaviour pretty quickly out of self preservation!



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      shashawnee
May 20th | shashawnee
Re: Violent teenage rages

LOL! I could just see me throwing my own tantrum! I do that with my 4yr old and it quiets him real fast.

I have told her that it is abuse when she hits and kicks and spits at me but she doesn't care when she gets into her mood. It just makes her hit harder.

Maybe I should call the police on her! Make her think twice before she does it again.

Thank you for your thoughts on this.



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electrifying02
May 19th | electrifying02
Re: Violent teenage rages

i feel so sorry for you hope your stomach is ok . can i ask has her father recently left or something or has she been picked on at school and for somereason she is taking it out on  you . ill be honest i was a compelete bitch to my mum but i never hit her but now we are close as can be we still have our fights . with the runnning away i would say something is bothering her . can ii ask do you get one on one time with her maybe she wants some  mum time alone and you maybe busy with the 4 yr old .

i would sit her down maybe when she is in a good mood and ask her is there anything bothering her or upsetting her

belxxx



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      shashawnee
May 20th | shashawnee
Re: Violent teenage rages

HI, thanks for your input.  I wish my daughter would talk with me. I have tried so hard to let her know that if ever she needs to talk she can always come to me. I have never been judgemental or condescending when she has (she once confided in me that she had 'pashed' her best friends boyfriend - wow, what a shock to me!) As for her father - please see last comment on page for that info.

Hopefully her counsellor can help a bit but it's only early days.



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tdv
May 19th | tdv
Re: Violent teenage rages

hi, wow this seems like a great deal to handle.  I honestly believe that there is some underlying issue to all this rage and anger and that you need some outside help ie counsellor, phsy or even talk to your health care nurse. 

I don't mean to snoop but is her dad around?  If not then this could be the cause of some of her anger. Was she abused by someone?  What is she like at school?

When you and your daughter do have a fight, I would suggest that is not the time to try and talk to her.  I would let her calm down and then approach the issue when she is in a much calmer state.  By doing this you  allow her to have some debrief time to cool off as well as maybe reflect on her actions.  Trying to talk to her while she is angry is going talking to a ticking bomb. 

If i was in your situation, i would def be getting outside help. 

I wish you the best of luck!



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      shashawnee
May 20th | shashawnee
Re: Violent teenage rages

Thank you tdv, and no, you aren't snooping. Her dad has never been around. She has never met him and never will. I concieved my daughter after being raped. She doesn't know this and hopefully never will either. I am not proud of this but neither am I ashamed, I have a beautiful daughter whom I love with all my heart.

Her school life is up and down. A lot of teasing and name calling. She spends a lot of time with the chaplain and the activities he puts on for the kids. Most days she comes home happy and tells me of her wonderful day and other times she tells me that she wants to move schools.

I think I am just in unknown territory right now, I never had any problems with my eldest so this has come as quite a shock.



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