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emmie
emmie | May 2008

Opinions please.

Ok me and Barry are in arguement over Chloe's injection. The health visitor came yesterday and said she missed her 18 month jab and wants me to book her in . I was discussing it with Barry last night and he bluntly said she isnt having it. Now i dont think she should miss her injection just because he objects i need good resoning . Now he says this injection is the MMR and is dangerous but yesterday this health visitor said it protects her against measles and the sooner she has it the better. As there is a massive outbreak of measles only 70 miles from here. So confussed dont know what to do ??? HELP !!!!!!!



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magenta
May 2008 | magenta
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Just wanted to let you know that all of my friends and family have had their children immunised and not one has had any adverse reaction. There is always a chance of lumps forming in the injection sites, my twins had this and a few days later the lumps were gone. Also sometimes children get a fever, i gave my boys panadol  just before getting their jabs so they were a bit more relaxed and didn't get any fevers.

Maggie



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Ngairi
May 2008 | Ngairi
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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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WOW  thanks so much for the links that iois really scary its certainly helped me make my decision thanks



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MJB
May 2008 | MJB
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oh book yourself in and take ur hubby to talk to the doc and maybe the nurse giving the needle to talk your (ahem his) concerns let the doc do the hardwork =)



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MJB
May 2008 | MJB
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definantly get it! (ok im biased cause i work at a docs surgery and i get so many calls bout immunisations) but stupid diseases are coming back because parents dont immunise their kids- ppl got wiped out cause of these diseases put your foot down and tell him to suck it up but ask him- she's had the 2 month, 6 month, 1 yr and everything else im guessing whats so wrong with getting these imms? and in most pre-schools and schools  they wont accept your kid if you dont have their blue book up to date- but your surgery should be able to print out her immunisation list for you if there's a prob- let me know how it goes =)



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Well after looking at the links above i have decided ia am going to book her in the stuff there is very scary and i cant take that chance . He seems to think because kylie never had her 18 month jab chloe isnt having hers yet he says kylie can have her pre school whioch she hasnt yet had and she is 5 chloe is also 6 months late for this jab and i really want to get it done before she becomes too aware of whats happening . So i will be booking them in while im in the surgeryu tomorrow weather he likes it or not my daughter grew in my body i will decide. Cruerl maybe but still i think she should have it as its in her hbest interests . Well must go to bed sleeping tab is working well now and my eyelids are dropping lol,

Thanks

Luv Emz xxx



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Domestic-warrior
May 2008 | Domestic-warrior
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MMR, is measles, mumps and rubella and they combine it.  Some friends of mine have had them done separately, although i think they may have had to pay because of the way the 'free' system is set up now (in Aust) individual injections aren't available on the PBS, and also if you can now get the injections singly.  Ask him why he objects?  Is it the Austism thing?  If so, do your research together and discuss it before you make a dicission.

I think it is good he is questioning it, because so many people just blindly do what the doctor tells them because the doctor said too.....i mean drug companies have a vested interest in this too!



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Hey Matey ,

Really ? All at differant times never heard of that before ive only ever known for them all to be done in 1. The only reason he has is its dangerous nothing to do with autism he says its dangerous but cant tell me why itsso dangerous she cant have it he just says kylie never had it chloe isnt either. But at he end of the day kylie isnt my child its not my choice on the other hand chloe is and unless i find reason notto give her it she will have it but of course i need to properly research it first .

Luv Emz xxx



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           encorepi
May 2008 | encorepi
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From my understanding, the risks are greater if you get separate doses.  The risk of autism is believed to come from mercury, and mercury is higher if the shots are separated.

If you are worried aobut autism, which is the highest concern with the MMR, don't have them separated.

Totally your choice, I am just sharing what I know.  And just incase you don't remember, I am the one who gets the immunisations done, a little late, but done anyways.

Jodi



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                emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Hi Jodi ,

Autism comes from mercury ? well u learn something new everyday loil. I am not going to get it seperated and autism isnt something that was a worry . It was just bnarry told me people have died after this injection a bit hard to believe so i had to raise the qwuestions with a partner that has always got to be right. Chloe is already 6 months late for this injection so i want her to get it over with ASAP so i will book her in later .

Thanks

Luv Emz xxx



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           Domestic-warrior
May 2008 | Domestic-warrior
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I think you have to ask for them separate...they wont offer.  He must have a reason as to why he thinks it's dangerous?....even my doctor admitted they don't know the long term effects of combining innoculations.



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                emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Hey Matey,

Im not going to get them done seperatly im just going to get the whole lot in 1 hit. Oh yes he says its killed people in the past which i really cant see and cant find no information to give me proof ofthat . and if he thinks im going to let her not have it just cos kylie hasnt he is seriously wrong.

Luv Emz xxx



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JubaTata
May 2008 | JubaTata
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Hey emmie

Tough choices to make for you now and ahead, I wish you all the best with your decisions.... like a few others have said it is best to get all the information.

Full disclosure, our daughter Eliška who is roughly the same same age as your little one, she is born in August '06, has never had a vaccination

Here is a link to a site with some information for you to consider, again there are a lot of voices on this, listen to your own..

http://avn.org.au/library/

Again hope all goes well for you all



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Thanks for the link i have had a little read on there asnd will go back to it later its just i dont want to not get her jabbed for no reason it just dont make sense. Again thanks for the link

Luv Emz xx



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encorepi
May 2008 | encorepi
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My boys had all of their injections, except my eldest 5, is yet to get his 4yo injections, he has to have them for school, but it is the mmr that causes concern. 

You can hold off, it's up to you.  Autism week was last week and so you will be hearing a lot in the media about mmr and autism.  I don't know there is a link, but you can't be sure.  And facts are that the cases of autism have increased to 1 in 100 boys, girls are at a much lesser risk.  My understanding is that it has to do with the amount of mercury in the injection and has been likened to mercury poisoning.  It may be that because we give the same does to every child regardless whether they are on the 1st or the 100th percentile, they are given the same does, based on age.  I don't feel that this is right, and would probably wait a little longer if I had my time over.  My 5yo is only 16 kilos, and there are plenty 4yos heavier than him, that is why I have held off on the 4yo injections.  It is totally up to you, but I just thought I would tell you what I knew.

Jodi



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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HiJodi,

Thanks for that. i have decided i am going to do some research to see what i can find my partner says its dangerous kylie (my step daughter) hasnt had it and neither is chloe but chloe has never had any problems or side affects on any of her previous immunisations so unless i have good reason i will be injecting her but i want to research it first to see what i think of it .

Luv Emz xx



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           encorepi
May 2008 | encorepi
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With regard to autism, this is the only immunisation that is a risk.  There is a lot more info against immunisation than for it out there, as the anti immunisation debate goes against the establishment, or the established trend.  Understand that there are two sides, and the debate regarding mmr has largely to do with autism, and you have several choices, don't get it, get it, or leave it for a year and get it then.

Good luck.

Jodi



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Practical-Princess
May 2008 | Practical-Princess
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Remind your hubby that side effects are extremely rare & the doctors keep a good eye on little ones in case of reactions. If she's had other immunusations without any problems then she is very unlikely to have any major problems with this one. Look up what can happen if a child gets the illness the immunisation covers - ask him if he'd rather his child go through them!

The benefits of immunisations far outway any negatives.



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Yes personally i think she should have it as measles and mumps arnt very pleasant but still for the sake of arguement i am going to research it and see what i can find but as it stands there are more reasons why i should than shouldent.

Luv Emz xx



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mom2jedd
May 2008 | mom2jedd
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I iwll start by saying that I am totally FOR getting all of their pokes...LOL

But some children (very rare) do react to theri shots. I know one fmaily who last their first born son due to a reaction to his infant shots. And another whose son is imparred for life due to his shots as well. I don't want you to think there is ZERO chance of a reaction, ther can be. BUT that said it is VERY VERY rare....

For us, the benefits out weigh the risks.

Good luck on you "argument"...LOL



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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On all chloes other immunisations she has been fine so i dont know why he thinks this one is going to be any differant but for arguement sake i will research it but so far there are more reasons why i should get her done to why i shouldent but just because he never allowed kylie to have it doesent mean my daughter wont get it after all im her mother.

Thanks

Luv Emz xx



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mace-oz
May 2008 | mace-oz
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just to let you know the mmr is measles mumps and rubella. so she will be protected against that. they have been giving this to kids since i was little and are still giving it. If there were problems with it they would have stopped it or changed it but they havn't



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Yes thanks



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90210organics
May 2008 | 90210organics
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My suggestion would be to make an educated decision based on research. Some good resources are books by Dr. Lauren Feder, Dr. Randall Neustaedter and Dr. Sears. You can get good info on both sides of this issue from these sources.

Sarah



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Ive never heard of any of these before maybe i will google the names and see what it comes up with

Cheers

Luv Emz xx



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lillkatheryn
May 2008 | lillkatheryn
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Hey Emz, for me it's a must.  Here in the US it's pretty much required for children to have their shots inorder to go to school.  And for me, I would rather them get a small fever now, then risk having something worse happening.  Except for the chicken pox or the flu I think it's so important to get them.  Just like you.  Maybe you can get some stats on how it would be if she did not get the shot.  Why does he not want it?  I know he's a tough nut to crack, but maybe at least the stats will help.  Good luck hunni



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Hey Sweetie ,

Me too she has had all other injections just not this one and it is one u have a choice over apparantly there are dangers ofg having it done but i dont know what they are ?? the health visitor says it protects her against measles and i dont want her getting measles . You know what barrys like always right but he rekons the reason she cant have it is because people have died having the MMR ?????? my brain is confussed but on the looks of it im winning this debate.

Love Emz xxx



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loopylisa
May 2008 | loopylisa
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I think that every child should be immunised. Both of my boys have had all of theirs.I think that a lot of media coverage about the 'possible' side effects simply have no set in stone evidence.Everything in life has a risk even down to the food we eat and whether its best to drink tap or bottled water.If we listened to every piece of media covearage we wouldn't eat or anything.

Of course at the end of the day it is your choice,but if I was to have another child I would definately have the jabs.Hope evething goes ok,Lisa.



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Hi Lisa ,

I totally agree unfortunatly my partner doesent  . He seems to think poeople have died having the MMR which he cant proove to me this is true therefore unless someone comes forward and prooves to me this is true then my daughter willl be booked in for her jab on tuesday . I dont care weather he wants her to have it or not its not his health i am her mother and i will make decisions for her until she can do so for herself. If he doesent like it he can lump it.

Luv Emz xxx 



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           loopylisa
May 2008 | loopylisa
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Good for you Em!!! Men often don't hav ethe same point of view as women as the saying goes-men are from venus,women are from mars-hence our highly intellectual state of mind .Lets face it,when our kids are ill it is us that takes care of them.I think you have made the right decision Em-hope things go ok for you and he comes around to your way of thinking,Lisa xx.



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Libby24
May 2008 | Libby24
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well i strongly believe in the immunisations. my kids both have had them and we all had the flu shot.

Oh and BTW my son is austistic and showed signs before he had his MMR shot

i dont believe that BS that it causes it



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      emmie
May 2008 | emmie
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Me too i believe she should have every single one of them . On the other hand barry doesent grrr. I dont want to stop my daughter having this injection unless i have good reasoninng for it . I dont want her to get measles and seems all barry can say is its dangerouds and thats not a good enough Reason for me to stop her having a injection i believe she needs and unless he can proove i shouldent be giving it to her i will be booking her in tuesday weather he likes it or not ,

Thanks for your feedback.

Luv Emz xxx



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anniebabe
May 2008 | anniebabe
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ems

my children had all their vaccinations without any problems. over the years they have become controversial here in australia where a debate has raged whether its worth giving the injections and protecting babies and children . or whether the risks far outweigh the side affects.

it becomes technical maybe people can enlighten you whether they have links back