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anon | July 17th

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Every one says it's normal 2 yr old behaviour but I think it's gone beyond that. I can not for the life of me get my 2 yr old to listen to me. This morning has been an absolute nightmare resulting in him slamming my oven door open and closed until the handle fell off one side and the two parts that make up the door have split apart, my mobile thrown into a sinkfull of dishwater (thats the second one he has destroyed). Sandwhiches (whole) and sultanas thrown across the room. This is the kind of behaviour we are encountering on a day to day basis. He has his good moments when he is affectionate and well behaved and helpful and I love him to pieces, but we seriously don't know what to do. We tell him no calmly then if this doesn't work we go up to his eye level and tell him sternly what ever he is doing is naughty and ask him to behave (attempt too anyway), if this fails it's time out but we can spend hours getting him to sit still for the 1 minute timeout. and ends up in yelling and tears and him just doing what he wanted anyway. Even my SIL doesn't know how we cope and believes that her 2 kids combined werenot the handful Anthony is. I feel I am to blame as while I was working he was getting away with alot more than I would of liked but he is a very very persistant boy as well. Last night we put him to bd at 7:30pm and a 10:30 pm he was still getting up. He had a nap of about 45 mins in the afternoon and woke screaming and took nearly 40 mins to calm him down. He has gone without dinner a couple of times cos he simply refuses to eat it and I wont cook him anything else (unless it is a new meal he has never eaten before). I don't know what to do anymore. Please help.



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JakeandJoesMum
July 21st | JakeandJoesMum
Re: out of control

wow! sounds like your son has major temper tantrums! he sounds like my now nearly 5 year old... my son is now being assessed for asperger syndrome soon, as he has a lot of the signs of it, but it has been a lot of fun these last few years! i say he was sent here to test me! like you, i tried a lot of different things, and nothing seemed to work. the worst part was/is the constant crying/screaming/whinging...   i have learnt to have a lot of patience! i  try to ignore the 'bad' behaviour. i tell him that i love him, but i don't love his behaviour, when he is having a tanty... i have to admit, it is a lot harder with a 2 year old, than a nearly 5 year old...  maybe a naturopath/iridologist could help? i took my son to one, and we have cut out most wheat, dairy and processed foods, and his behaviour seems to have improved a LOT!!!. food colourings are also very bad for my son. there is a good dvd out which shows all about the effects that food colourings and preservatives etc have on children - it is called "Fed Up (with children's behaviour)" ~ Sue Dengate.... hope this helps!



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jenniferc27
July 18th | jenniferc27
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welcome to the 2 it doesnt get better. my son is almost 4 we wnet through that. i tried time out but then i started busting his butt and it taken time but he starting to out grow that hiting throwing fits etc. it makes u wana cry u feel like no one else is going through this but u. dont make him take naps let him go out and play for a few hours do whatever makes him happy and i promise u by 8 or 9 he be ready 4 bed. feel free email me jenn021681@aol.com



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MistyDawn
July 18th | MistyDawn
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Hello, I dont have much advise, I just wanted to send my sympathy! My oldest just turned 2 in May and he is now a holy terror!  He does what you sya yours does throws his food across the room screams and throws a tantrum over everything!  I have read your advices from people adn It didnt seem to help my at all!  Nothing has changed recently, he playes with other kids and he seems to have a fine diet adn eats when he is hungry enough...   but maybe you could try some physica disapline... I have tried it with my son and it dont seen to help... but it migh twiht your kid as no 2 kids are alike, tho ours seem to be 2 peas ina pod! lol

sorry im not more help!



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kseers
July 17th | kseers
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Hi there!  Some kids are more intense than others.  It doesn't help when you are thinking "why don't other kids do this, is it just mine, what am i doign wrong?"  I know because I think that quite often.  My son is very intense - very sensitive and emotionally extreme.  He is just built that way.  I try and keep things calm around him so that things don't make him worse and I try to be sensitive to how things affect him (like diet as people have suggested) but that can't always happen. 

I also try and see his behaviour in positive ways - when he stands up to me I see it as good that he can stand up for himself and I let him question things, but I always have an answer to explain why i have told him to do something.  I am also big on consequences and letting him chose the behaviour he wants knowing what teh consequence is.  Anyway, your guy is a bit small for that but you can start using that mindset in a simpler way.

That said, there is no excuse for bad behaviour.  I found time out on a 'naughty chair' didn't work for us as my son would not stay put and I didn't want to get into physical reactions.  A friend of mine told me to always stand behind them as you lead them to the corner and they can't kick you etc.. as easily so we did that for a while and just stand behind them for the minute (doesn't always work but more often it did).  Now, though, I send him to his room to calm down - for him that is punishment as he needs people around him.

The bedtime you describe and teh struggles with dinner sound very familiar.  The trick is picking your battles and being consistent with the ones you think are important - eg no more food after dinner, no leaving your room after stories (we leave the room and put a cd on and he can't come out even if he is awake) and letting the rest slide until you are ready to take them on as well.

I hope that helps you and you can see where I am coming from.  Minti mail me if you've got questions for me.



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nabutters
July 17th | nabutters
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hey, wow, sounds like u have a little boy a litte frustrated and maybe he needs to be seen by a dr as well... has he been like this for a while?? have some things changed at home?? something upsetting him?? My dr has always said if there is a big change in behaviour that is a reason to see him,it could be a number of reasons, he is unwell, he has a behaviour problem,it could be a habit forming,or foods......Maybe you should go and see someone for peace of mind sweetie??? It might put your mind at ease if you find out the causes of his behaviour,even if it is just him acting out........

i wish you luck on all this.......give an update if you find out anything!!

 na xxx



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Rukia
July 17th | Rukia
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Babe as I said yesterday I think he is bored and needs other kids to play with. You are more than welcome up here any time you want. Charlie will show him a thing or too. LOL she is a mean buggar.

But seriosly chicki all ya can do is keep trying and if ya think there is a behavoural prob see ur doc and go and see a peadeatrsion (sp)

Remember he is so beautiful and proberly fustrated with something or other. Alex gets like him when he is fustrated, Becca said yesterday so does Logan.

Also with all that has happened the last few months might be taking a toll on him to.

Do you feed him any junk food? cordial and white bread? (these have addatives that can make some kids go "mental" and uncontrolable)



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      JubaTata
July 17th | JubaTata
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definitely consider what Rukia has said......

I would take it further though... eliminate any food colourings and additives.. so no red cordial etc..  check the additive numbers on the back of the products you buy and google them they are also called things like amaranth, sunset yellow etc these things are really bad..

Try to cut out all cane sugar or if you are going to give it make sure the food also contains something good, we give our 23 month old only one square of that Lindt 70% dark chocolate as a treat...

The next thing I am about to mention may seem too 'old school' etc. but I will say you have nothing to lose by trying it...  It is Cod Liver Oil.  Your can get it in soft gels which he won't be able to taste it.....

I have mentioned mostly diet related issues but love, routine and discipline are all major factors influencing behaviour....  I knwo you love your child what is your position on discipline?  I am not going to go into it here but we diefinitely let our child know where her boundaries are..



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      anon
July 17th | anon
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The last couple of weeks we have cut out almost all crap foods like cordial, it's milo in the morning and diluted juice pretty mucht the rest of the time, refuses to drink plain water so its about 50/50 in the juice dep. (no added sugar juices) Milk for his nap and befor bed) he's been eating tuna and pasta for lunches or sandwhiches (white but has had this since he was old enough to eat a sandwhich) dinner is usually some kind of meat and veg or pasta/rice dishes, take out maybe once a week (was more when we were working) fruit yogurt even porridge for breakky sometimes has a fruit or muesli bar when we are on the run and if he has had a particularly good day then it he can have a bag of tiny teddies or something like that.

Shayne has had to start working exceptionally long hours at work and is gone b4 we get up and generally gets home just befor Anthony has his bedtime routine or during that routine. Bed, (just started reading a book to him nightly) milk then kisses and cuddles and off to bed.

And yeah we have had a lot going on lately but most of that is under control and shouldn't of really affected his behaviour to that degree. I try to explain to Shayne he is bored and frustrated but his comeback is play with him etc etc which I do, we paint, play with cars all the usual things that 2 yr olds do but it usual ends up with me getting stuff thrown at me (out of excitement mostly) or him hitting me (like you saw yesterday out of frustration) so I will try and let him occupy himself for a little bit until he calms down. He does have so much energy naturally and like I said b4 he is persistant and stubborn. I have tried just about every method I can think of to get it under control and have been for the last couple of months.



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           JubaTata
July 17th | JubaTata
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or switch to non supermarket bread and go to bakers delight, brumby's etc or your local artisan baker.  Supermarket bread all contains an additive which in not the best, can't quite remember what it is called off the top of my head, it will be slightly more expensive but hey it is a small price to pay...

I go to my local goumet, expensive baker late in the day to buy my bread like close to pack up time or even when they are packing up, order some bread and usually they throw in two forthe price of one or just a whole bunch of stuff free as they can't sell it the next day.  I don't know if this sounds to cheap to some of you but the bread is really good and we are on a tight budget....

I wouldn't trust any bread which can be sold 'fresh' the next day....

Another thing is to try rye bread pehaps?  Oh and assuming you are in Australia check out Cleopatra or Aphrodite milk at your local health food store.... much healthier milk



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           Rukia
July 17th | Rukia
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Try and change the white bread to something else. My kids love soy and linseed and multi grain.

Will talk to ya later tonight or another time we catch up about the rest.

 



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KimmyMT
July 17th | KimmyMT
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His acting out could be the result of what else is going on around him. Has there been any changes in your life? Who does he spend his days with? Does he go to a daycare? If so is HE happy with the daycare or how do they teachers treat them? How much time does he spend with you and your partner? Is there one parent he doesnt get to speand as much time with? You might want to concider these questions. Some children dont know how to handle change and they act out.



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