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SavvyMummy
SavvyMummy | July 19th

Dining out

I am really curious and wonder when is a good age when a child will truly understand our instructions?

My son is going 3.  At home where things are a little under control, we would have him sit on his highchair to have meals.  Sometimes when we are out at a NEW restaurant having meals,  he would 'rebel' and refuse to sit on his chair.  He tends to enjoy exploring the restaurant instead. We have to constantly get him back to us to have his meal and then he goes off again.  If he did not have his way, he would protest with whining lots...you know, making a scene.  It seems like talking sensibly to him does not make sense to him at all! We understand that he would like to explore but shouldnt we be sitting on our chairs when eating?

I have only one boy and wonder if parents with more kids or more experience can give me an estimate of when a kid could understand and obey our instructions. Or is there no estimate??! Should we firmly get him to sit on his chair for his meal without any compromise? Or should we just let him be since he is at a new restaurant? Where's the balance?? I wish there is more peace and joy when dining out.



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Izzy
July 21st | Izzy
Re: Dining out

My son is 3 and 4 months and we've been going through this since he could walk and it's a whole lot better now that he  is older.  When we go out to eat, we bring him coloring books and some toys. He only eats for a short time and we eat leisurely (or at least try to). So in the meantime, he can get busy playing. If the toy/activity really catches his attention, then he sits in his chair very well. If it doesn't, then he plays on the floor, etc. As long as he doesn't walk around and try to rearrange the restaurant chairs, then we let him do what he wants.  At 3 (especially for highly active kids), it is a bit much for them to sit still doing nothing.

In regards to understanding directions, they can understand a lot at this age, especially if it's a direction/instruction that has been repeated several times. For example, I've been telling my son that he cannot speak to strangers UNLESS he is with me or with his daddy. Last week, he told me that he spoke to the neighbors because he was with Daddy at the time so it's Ok. :-)     But of course, independence is very intense at this age..so whether they listen to you or not is another issue altogether.



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Queen-Fire
July 20th | Queen-Fire
Re: Dining out

Have you tried taking him to a restaurant where there is like a playground or something so you can let him have a play and explore while waiting for the food to arrive then just say you can play after dinner but you must eat dinner 1st, If he then plays up you can say well you don't get to play after dinner.



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      SavvyMummy
July 21st | SavvyMummy
Re: Dining out

Hmm...as the restaurant we went to the other day was new, I did not think about telling him that he could venture around but must be at the dinner table when the food is served.  I will try that the next time - giving him heart preparation first.  Thanks for the idea!



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           Queen-Fire
July 21st | Queen-Fire
Re: Dining out

I havent tried this for myself but my mum reckons it works in most situations such as if you are about to go on a long flight get ure kids to run around the terminal then when u get on the plane the kids usually sit quietly on the plane. So it wasnt my idea but mum's.



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MelanieC
July 20th | MelanieC
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Hi, I also have a child going on three and also a ten year old. I would suggest firstly training your child to sit in a normal chair at home and also  at other familiar places (eg grandparents and friends - to save any embarrassment!). I know that lots of people would not agree with this strategy but our children have always been very well behaved. I believe that after being given, say three warnings, the child has to suffer a consequence of poor behavour. In my experience (depending upon personality of child) one good smack on the bottom usually works very well. Although there will be tears and a performance the next time your child tries to push the boundaries you will have the threat of the smakc up your sleeve and probably will not have to use it very often! If you are uncomfortable with smacking any consequence for bad behaviour will work. Eg. time out in the bedroom or it could simply be missing out on ice-cream after dinner. Actually, I would always try positive encouragement first. eg. "Wow, what a big boy, sitting in a big boy chair". etc.

I believe between 2.5 - 3 years a child should be able to follow all instructions.



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      SavvyMummy
July 21st | SavvyMummy
Re: Dining out

At home, he usually has to sit at his high chair for meals and the was not allowed to go anywhere.  Sometimes, he would tell us he wanted to get this or that to the table but we would not let him. I agree that the training starts very much from home.

The challenge is when we are out somewhere.  He really knows that when he makes a scene, he will get us really embarrassed.  We tend to give in more outside since we would not like a scene in front of other restaurant patrons.

One more thing to note also was that he just woke from his nap and that made it even harder for us to talk him into listening.  He is usually already grouchy upon waking up and it was coincidenally dinner time and we were at the restaurant with friends.  Well, we did let him have his ample rounds exploring while waiting for food to come.  But after that, he still just did not want to entertain us very much at all and just wanted to have his way.

About following what we say, there are times i really get confused because no matter how we tell him, he just wanted his ways.  It seems like he didnt understand.  That's the tricky part...I am hesitant to discipline if a child doesnt understand becos it is unfair.



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MrsSanders
July 20th | MrsSanders
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Hmm, the independant mind set of a 2/3 yr old is strong, but they should still be able to sit at a meal as long as it's not too long. I think I would set the stage a little by firstly taking him to child orientated places. Thus if he makes a fuss about sitting at table, no one is going to bat an eyelid, when he fusses and you can set your boundries in an enviroment, where other parents will have empathy with you, having gone though this themselves or going through it. Also I find if you have interesting activities to do at table, like crayons, paper and stickers if the restraunt dont supply. Sometimes talking is not going to work and just repeatedly bringing him back and riding through the tantrum is the only way to set your boundry. Good luck and best wishes.

Winnie.xx



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      SavvyMummy
July 21st | SavvyMummy
Re: Dining out

Do you think putting things that interest the child at the dining table is a good thing?  We do usually allow our son to bring a car magazine or small toy cars (2 or 3) to meals and that has become a habit impossible to break.  I wonder if there will be one day when he can come to meals without having to have all these things to 'distract' him and make him sit in his chair.

They are good distractions but are they good habits in the long run? Although we are making him sit in his chair becos of such good distractions, but are we teaching a child to just come and have his meal as who he is?  Or for his age, this is required? And he will grow out of this 'bad' habit which i would like to call it?  It is similar to having meals with the television on.



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