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nikyb83
nikyb83 | December 2008

cleaning bedroom

hi all,

well i thought i would be able to deal with this myself.

but now i realise im out of ideas.

my four year old daughter used to pack up but the last few months wont clean up any toys at all  but will spread them all over the house.

i have tried the job chart, i have tried the santa route (printing up a letter from santa saying how good she is doing at kinda and how nice she can be the only thing she needs to practice is cleaning her room so she can get the presents she wants for xmas). i have tried special activities ( like if she does it she will get to do some special cooking or craft activities or even a special gift).

i just dont know what to do?. its very hard for me to find time to do it all.i just feel like i cant find 10 mins to my self a day so when will i have time to do it especially now trying to get orgainised for xmas season. when they are all in bedd i sit down and have a cuppa then im so tierd i just want to go to bed.

i even said i will do the lounge and you do your room. suprise suprise i keep my end of the bargain but she didnt.

any ideas will be great appreciated.

thanks so much.



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DarkenedAngel
December 2008 | DarkenedAngel
Re: cleaning bedroom

I got cold and cruel with my kids with this problem. Any of their toys that didn't get packed up, after they were in bed I'd pack them up myself - in a box or bag and hide it in the shed and then I'd tell them when they asked where they were that they couldn't have them because they obviously didn't care enough about them to pack them up.

Once they realised that they were rapidly running out of toys, they started packing them up and didn't miss a single one! Once they got into the routine and kept to it for a while, they slowly started getting their toys back again a bit at a time. If they got lazy again, their toys started disappearing again.

It worked wonders!



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oldgirl
December 2008 | oldgirl
Re: cleaning bedroom

One of our children did exactly the same. I did not clean it. After a while I tried all sorts of things and nothing worked. I tried helping him clean his room - worked for a while; made a game of it and that worked for longer. We set the oven timer with a treat for the reward if the job was done. The treat was not always food, sometimes I said "if you clean up your room I will have time to play a game with you." Sometimes I would clean up the mess and say "You know, I really would like to read you a book now but I am so tired from cleaning your room I don't have the time or energy. I wish you had done it then we could cuddle up together and read. After a few comments like that the room situation improved and I learnt to live with some imperfections. His efforts to clean his room were always met with high praise and thanks not always with other rewards. He is now a great husband (so my daughter in law says) and a great father but still struggles to be tidy. Hehandles it well though. Keep trying the innovative way you are to encourage your little girl and she will get it eventually.



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Kooklalitsa
December 2008 | Kooklalitsa
Re: cleaning bedroom

Hi Niky & little bub!

The only advice I have is what Ive been using on my little princess, which is to pretend that its a treasure hunt..... for you! Get her to hide her toys in her bedroom, that way atleast they are in her room and not all over the house. When you do find them, I have discovered that my daughter is so excited by the idea of hiding something and me finding it, then when I ask her to put away the toy that I have found (before I look for the next one) she is literally tripping over herself to do the right thing!

hope this might help



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QueenB
December 2008 | QueenB
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We have a similar problem her with my 4yo and 2yo.  They don't like picking up toys, it interupts whatever they are doing.  We have different boxes for different toys but I find that this doesn't make a difference to the mess.  We are always struggling with this one.  But the latest discovery is that our 4 yo is very much like his dad and can't see where to begin.  It is all too overwhelming for him.  So we break it down into smaller tasks and try and make them different.  For example - pick up all the red toys (or whatever colour) or pick up all the cars, or pick up all the big toys etc...

This works but only if we stay in the room and help him.  As soon as we leave he stops.  And if we don't help he looses heart. 

I think htat part of our problem is that we always picked up the toys for him until he was about 2yo.  It always seemed easier.  Then his brother came along and we didn't have time and it was too late.  Mind you we know that he can do it because he is really good at packing toys away at other people's places.  Maybe persistance is the answer.

Just quickly as an after thought, I think kids now-a-days have too many toys.  My sister gets her kids just before Christmas and their birthday to pick out a toy they no longer want and give it to charity.  Nice idea if you can get them to part with them.

If you find that something works really well let me know.



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Tadpole
December 2008 | Tadpole
Re: cleaning bedroom

I agree to the others as far as boxing the toys up, it sure makes it easy for the little ones if they only have to throw the toys in. The key to this one is be strong and dont give in. I always use my manners too when asking the kids to do stuff and they tend to respect that. But put your foot down on this one because it is important for your children to learn to respect their belongings and your house. If my kids refuge after being asked politely, I usually get the toy box, put it in the middle of the mess and "Right I want you to pick up your toys now! You are make Mummy sad when you don't listen to me". I don't want us to live in a house that looks likes animals have been in, Ask your child if they want to live like an animal? usually they say No. "Well you better pick your toys up then" . If you threaten to take something off them , do it straight away and keep on doing it untill they listen. MAKE SURE when your little one has done what you ask, that you praise her and tell her how happy you are.



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Jessgore
December 2008 | Jessgore
Re: cleaning bedroom

Every night before bed, I sit on my sons floor and i say....

Put away your cars, then what ever else is lying around on the floor... I have a box for down stairs he can put every thing in, and I stand there and watch him do it..  And if he wants to go upstairs to play he I stand there and make him put his other toys away before he can go upstairs.

It was hard at first and he refused, but eventually he realized I was serious.. Now I just say  "Put these away first.." And he does it...  Ok sometimes he'll kick up a fuss, but if the toys don't go away he does not get to do what he wants... 

This does not work on husbands.. :)



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Rukia
December 2008 | Rukia
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sadly it is very easy (i cant say a heap as we have a toy room and it is a bomb site but i have been very slack due to health reasons)

1 BOX at a time. spend a day or so and clean it all up box everything (I read you have a big box and several smaller ones) then ask her what she wants get that 1 box out. if she wants more she has to clean it up then another box can come out.

good luck.



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champers1964
December 2008 | champers1964
Re: cleaning bedroom

This is a little 4 year old.....I'm still trying to get my 20year old to pick up....lol.

This is a management issue. Take a look around a pre-school, so many kids, so little mess. That's because of organisation.

1. Spend a day sorting and organising the toys. Use plastic tubs to sort toys into. A box for blocks, a box for dolls, a box for cars etc etc etc.

2. Find somewhere to store the toys where the children dont access, this may cause serious re-arranging.

3. Each day get out 3 or 4 different boxes, say cars, blocks, tea sets, dolls in different areas maybe one on a table, some on a sheet on the floor etc.

4. She can then move from area to area playing constructively with the toys laid out. It helps if you can sit down for a few mins in each area and help her to play with them to start her off.

5. At the end of the day you can say lets pack up the toys together before we choose what you would like to have tomorrow!

When children are faced with a huge amount of toys they really dont know what to do with them, its overwhelming so just spreading them everywhere is the only option. They need direction and support. Its also interesting to have a 'new' selection every day.

Hope this helps. Miriam



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      nikyb83
December 2008 | nikyb83
Re: cleaning bedroom

thanks alot i think i will try this if i can find some where to store the 100,s of toys in the house

i thought taking her t.v. and dvd player off her would definatly work its been gone for over 4 hours and about 4 book's have been picked up.

thanks when i get a chance to try and sort out a way to do this later i will let you know how it works in a couple of days.

thanks again.



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           champers1964
December 2008 | champers1964
Re: cleaning bedroom

Cheers Nikyb83 I would love to know how it goes!

Take care and good luck,

Miriam :0)



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shsmm44
December 2008 | shsmm44
Re: cleaning bedroom

What I done was, I sent all my three kids of to one day. And then I got all my 4 years old toy,went through them.I gave one box or container for toys for the house. And the other one for the yard. I then showed Michael which ones where which,I then took the yard toys out the back and put them under cover. I only kept about dozen toys inside in a box. And everytime michael would leaves one laying around, I would pick it up and throw it out the back. He soon got sick and tired of picking his toys from outside. give it ago for about two weeks. And it does work. You have to show them you a boss not them. I hope this helps



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      nikyb83
December 2008 | nikyb83
Re: cleaning bedroom

thanks for your suggestion the only problem is she has 1 huge toy box and about 8 small ones and we also have a dog that chews every thing in the back yard.

thanks anyway



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           KTT53
December 2008 | KTT53
Re: cleaning bedroom

This is one that drives me nuts!!!!! I am in battle lately myself..... My just-about-to turn six yr old has recently formed the habbit of pulling EVERYTHING out and then not cleaning it up - at all.

I am about to lay down the law now that my mother acutally came to clean the house for me while I was extremely ill this week! My strategy will be to allow only one toy at at a time or a group of toys at a time that are of the same theme so to speak. For example, for a girl it may be dolls and their clothes and accessories. For boys it may be cars and then the car mat and accessories. When my child is finished playing with that, its to be packed away. If he refuses, the toys are then confiscated and I will tell him that I will be giving them to a lovely child who appreciates his toys and wants to put them away and look after them. Then, If the behaviour continues, I will indeed give them away. I think its a matter of showing them who is boss, that its behaviour thats not acceptable. I will explain that Mummy and Daddy do not leave all their bits and pieces all over the house and that the expectation is that he should not be doing that in his room.

I think its the fact we give in, think to ourselves "Far out, if i just get in there and quickly do it then its done" and then the kids think they have got away with having to do it. I have also noticed that my child messes his room up badly and then wont clean it up when he is bored and has been playing in his room for too long (like when I am doing housework or occupied with something). I need to be more responsible and be on to this and catch him out early before the mess gets out of hand. I need to be the one to redirect his energy into something else like going outside etc to avoid the mess in the first place!

I will let you know how it goes!



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