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Queen-Fire
Queen-Fire | December 2008

Am I a bad Person??

OK Not a parenting question, but is family related.

After I left home my parents have been up a few times to see me and my family, now My partner told me what he thought of my parents and I totally agree with him. He told me they were scum.

This year I was lucky I got a phone call on my birthday and they had told me they were sending something up for me, I thought wow they got me a present and what I got was just a card. They have also said that they aren't getting me anything for christmas not even a card, but they did get something for my son. Last year they didn't even call on my birthday and forgot completely.

To be absolutely honest I feel guilty for not being able to afford a gift for them this year, I know I shouldn't.

But when my partner told me that he thought my parents were scum I didnt feel upset or angry, right now I am upset at myself for not even sticking up for them.

Does this make me a bad person??

Cheers Queenie

xoxoxxoxoxoxoxo



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mystikal
December 2008 | mystikal
Re: Am I a bad Person??

I agree with daddy bear. I don't think you're a bad person and I don't think your parents are bad people either. Sure it's nice to get something for our birthdays but aren't we a little old to worry about whether we get more than a card now that we have a little boy to buy presents for?

If your parents buy something for him for Christmas then that's great because Christmas is about children and grand children more than for adults.

If you want to buy them a gift because you're that type of person then you can do it. If you want to react the same way by not buying them anything for birthdays/christmas other than cards then that's good too. But don't punish them for being them.

They might be scum but they're doing what's REALLY important here, which is acknowledging your son at Christmas. That's the most important thing.

My parents are scum too but my family is not allowed to bad mouth my partner and my partner is not allowed to bad mouth my family.

If you feel bad about it then tell your partner to STOP IT and you MEAN IT. Tell them yes they may be scum but they are your family and your mum will always be your mum, your dad will always be your dad and you don't want to hear it.

 



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daddybear
December 2008 | daddybear
Re: Am I a bad Person??

Hi, no you are not a bad person, neither are your parents.  Everyone just sees things in a different way.  I do not know your family history, but am guessing that this goes back to when you left home with your partner.  Some parents don't know how to accept thier "baby" leaving home, other parents just forget things.  I can' remember the last time I sent cards to my family, or received 1 from them, but we all know we are still a family and still love each other.

On the other side your partner saying they are scum is irrelevant, it is not his place to judge them, for any reason.  It took me a long time for me to realise this, I always blamed my ex's mother for coming between us and finaly splitting us up.  I know this was not so, there were problems on both sides.

The point is that Christmas is a time for giving, in fact any time is.  Life is not about what we receive but what we give to others ( I have a hard time trying to explain this to my children).  If you let it upset you, it will.  Let it go and don't 'expect' to receive anything, then if you do it will be an even better suprise for you, dwelling on things only makes matters worse.

As I said, let it go, and just enjoy the spirit of Christmas. (The spirit of giving).

Wishing you all the very best in life.  Have a Happy and joyful Christmas.



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Rukia
December 2008 | Rukia
Re: Am I a bad Person??

i dont know your history with your family but I dislike my family to the point where i wont go to certian places in Perth cause I know they go there. (sadly I had to today and ran into them getting the 3rd degree for them not seeing my kids this year)

No your are not a bad person. you are a very lovely person. dont let it upset you.



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champers1964
December 2008 | champers1964
Re: Am I a bad Person??

I dont know the history of you and your parents, nor their side of the story so I find it difficult to comment.

However, what I do know is that it is extremely inappropriate for partners to make comments like the one your partner has made. What ever is going on between you and your parents it is your relationship with them not his. Just as its inappropriate for them to make comments about your partner and interfear in your relationship with your partner its is not his place to do the same. He can comfort you if your hurt, hold you, and love you but not interfear in a parent child relationship.

Family is important, and at times relationships go through bad patches especially when there is a change in dynamics like when a parents child becomes an adult. Sometimes a child is ready to move to the next level but the parent isnt. Or there is a confusion on when that new adult wants to be grown up and when they still need to be a child.

One tip, when you talk to your parents think about how you would feel if it was your son as a grown-up  saying the same thing. Sometimes its a good way to judge how you sound.

Your parents will always be your parents whether the relationship is strained or not. Your kids need their grandparents and showing respect for your elders teaches your children to do the same and treat your parents as you would want to be treated by your children when they grow up.

Christmas is time for family and for forgiveness and love!



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asng2002
December 2008 | asng2002
Re: Am I a bad Person??

No, I don't think so. We are supposed to stick up for and defend our parents when a third person calls them scum, but given your circumstances and they way theytreated you , it is natural to be angry and disappointed. More over when you are in relationship it is natural that your partner will try to protect you and say bad things about any one who hurts you. It is also natural to want to be protected(not physically but imotionally). You are a very good person that you are right now thininkg that you did wrong. You are still very loyal to your parents.

If you want peace of mind, talk to your partner later, tell him that you were angry with your parents and that's why didn't say anything when he called them scum. But right now in a calmer mind you don't think it is a good idea to call them that, because what ever thier fault may be but they are still your parents.

Hope this helps,

Warm regards!!!



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MrsSanders
December 2008 | MrsSanders
Re: Am I a bad Person??

Hey there if your Parents are not showing you honour and respect, then your are not a bad person for not honouring them back.

Just because children become adults does not mean that they can be side lined, we are all children at heart and need to be shown our parents love in little ways through life and vice versa.

If your parents can "forget" your Birthday and find no consequence in that, then you deserve to feel upset..

As for them being scum, well hun, I am not sure I know what that means, but I think if it means hurting their childs (you) feelings constantly, then I probably agree.

 Parents generally get the respect they nurture and seems you are feeling what they have sown. That does not make you a bad person.

Just my thoughts. Luv Winnie.xxxx

 



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      Queen-Fire
December 2008 | Queen-Fire
Re: Am I a bad Person??

Thanks winnie,

I just needed to know that what I am going thru emotionally is normal, and not something unusual.

By Scum we mean that yes they will remember my partners birthday but then forget mine, which is odd as I am there child. At least my inlaws have the decency to remember all of our birthdays. Even celebrate em with us.

Cheers Queenie



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           Frontier
December 2008 | Frontier
Re: Am I a bad Person??

 Just remember to do what you feel is right. I feel better about myself when I am good to others and I find life is a lot more fun when I don't keep score on who does what or who gives what. I am happier if I have given more than I have recieved, however I would probably be a little hurt if my Bday was forgotten bearing in mind there could be reasons as I have forgotten Bdays before.

To make sure my Bdays was remembered in the future perhaps I may invite them to dinner to celebrate my bday, make it an annual event    celebrate.

You are not a bad person, just a normal human being with feelings. 



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                Queen-Fire
December 2008 | Queen-Fire
Re: Am I a bad Person??

I would make it an annual event except that I can't afford to travel interstate once a year just to celebrate my birthday. It isn't even the fact that they forgot my birthday just once they did it last year and the year before, but this year they didnt even send me a christmas card last year they came up for christmas. Don't get me wrong I still love them but I try to buy them things or at least send them a birthday card or christmas card, I also send em presents for my niece. I do not expect a present or anything from them except maybe a card and a phonecall on time.

I don't know if that is too much to ask? but If i ever forgot there birthdays god help me, I actually forgot my nieces birthday as we had a 2 hour drive with a grumpy toddler that day and It slipped my mind and I rang them up and my sister answered the phone and absolutely abused me, I then got a phone call from my parents abusing me as well. It is the 1st time I had forgotten anyones birthday and it just made the weekend that much worse.

Cheers

xoxox



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                     Democrates
December 2008 | Democrates
Re: Am I a bad Person??

Sounds like you're getting a raw deal alright. You seem like a really nice person based on all the consideration you've put into this, so you should ditch that self doubt, smile at yourself in the mirror every morning and say out loud "I'm a really nice person", grant yourself permission to feel good and be happy - to get you started here's an e-hug from Ireland .

Where now from here is the question. If you seek justice for your grievance that's likely to result in an escalation of conflict. If you want to change your parents behaviour for the future, then your partner can help by calling them a month and then a week in advance of your birthday to remind them. Hopefully this can be turned around without anyone getting upset if it's handled with tact and diplomacy.

Take care.
D

 



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