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Stupidblodgingmums | January 2009

Re: Baby Baby Baby

All I can think about lately is having a baby however Im 19 years old and still feel i'll be looked at as "too young". Im engaged to wed in 2010 in April. I dont want to be one of those centerlink blodging mums! I work full time and have a great career but feel having a baby will make me more than happy:s Ive had two abortions and am feeling lost. Any recomendations?



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Bluebird97
January 2009 | Bluebird97
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I am going to say something you never thought about.What happens if your little bundle of joy turns out to be a "special needs" bundle of joy, will you be able to cope do you have support and help if you need it, will the father stick around if baby is "special"?

Many years ago my brother was dating a girl who was desperate to keep him so thought to have his baby. Although I am not saying this is you I asked her about medications and family medical problems and the news was not great. I asked her what would happen if she had a handicapped baby but all she could see was this beutiful baby all healthy and perfect. I decided to ask people I knew about risks and the news was not great for her but again she had stars in her eyes. I now have a "special needs" child of my own and although I love her wholeheartedly she is still a right handful and I have no help, support or life of my own.

Talk to your partner about a baby, talk to your doctor and get all the tests you need (rubella,hep b+c, hiv/aids etc) that way if you need any shots or medical treatment then you can ahve them before you fall pregnant.. Find out about the medical history on both sides (cancer, biological conditions, diabetes, depression) speak to your families about your decision and guage whether they will be there to support you should  things not go as planned. Get all the information about birth and pregnancy you can then make your decision based around your findings and not the stars in your eyes. A baby is not a toy and is very hard work, they are not minuture adults they need you to do everything for them and cant tell you what they need. Perhaps you should also look into a pre-parenting course as well to help the research.

Not all parents on Centrelink are bludgers, some like me are in need of it to look after our children and others have their own stories. Admittedly a lot of people have a baby for the money but not everyone is like that.



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      josierm
January 2009 | josierm
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an important thought.

i myself have looked after a lot of special needs babies, and although i get to go home to my healthy children at the end of my shift, i know that it is very hard work to have a special needs baby/child.  unfortunately, many young mums do not cope, and the child ends up in foster care.



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      Ravenheart
January 2009 | Ravenheart
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Really well saud Bluebird97, you have mentioned some really inportant things I think this girl need to think about!

xoxo



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           Bluebird97
January 2009 | Bluebird97
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If I can make one person think about their decision with all the information there is then there will one less child in the system because it is not wanted.

Special needs children are a gift but a right handful and not for everyone. If you knowingly go into having a child like this then at least make sure you can look afterand love it forever.



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inquisitive-creatures
January 2009 | inquisitive-creatures
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Wow you certainly have opened a can of worms with this one. Firstly if you truly wanted a baby you wouldn't be concerned about what others may think. 19 isn't that young to have a baby. I fell pregnant at 17 and gave birth just after turning 18. And yes it gets under my skin when people judge you for your age but who cares? They don't know your personal circumstances! And age doesn't define how good of a mother you are.

Secondly you have offended a lot of people with your username and your comment about not wanting to be a Centrelink bludger. But I think I know where you are coming from. You don't want others to see you that way? Am I right? I don't agree with people purposely having children for the baby bonus or teen mums who spend their bonuses on themselves and I am not making judgement here but you do see them on News programs all the time bragging about doing this. Depending on your income you may still receive Centrelink whether you like it or not and you will get the bonus. But instead of throwing it away how about you put it in a bank account for you child when he/she turns 18? That's what I did with my baby bonus. Everything else I bought for my son was out of my own hard earned money that I had been saving since I was 13.

I worked 35 hours a week on top of going to school full time and once I graduated I worked full time up until I was 8 months pregnant. I was a major career person but everything changed when I had my son. Now I want to be there for him and watch him grow up. Yes I will return to study hopefully within the next few years but that doesn't make me a bludger for wanting to stay home and raise my son!

Lastly be really careful about falling pregnant again unless you know you're ready. What happens if you fall pregnant and then your partner leaves you? Will you have a 3rd abortion? These are the things you have to think about. Men, especially when they are so young may change their minds and you have to be prepared to be a single mother just in case that happens. There are so many what ifs and you have to go through all of them before you plan for this baby. My partner and I were dead set on wanting children and we weighed up everything before committing to that decision. We wouldn't change it for the world. But I do know a lot of teen mums who didn't get it so lucky, with their partner eventually straying and that's why I warn you.

I hope for everyone's sake on here though that you at least change your username. I can't believe it was allowed!



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singlemama
January 2009 | singlemama
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Hello there

I do indeed think that you have upset alot of mothers!

Firstly i wana tell you... I am 20 I had my baby at the age of 18 and you know what I am also a single mother. It did not meddle with my career at all up until recently where i lost my job due to personal reasons.

Yeah people will look at you and say your young to be a mother but hey let them say what they want its your choice your life.

TWO ABORTIONS!!! Are you insane girl? Listen each time you have an abortion you snip your chances of having a baby again or if you do want this baby and decide to keep it you will have a chance of miscarrage!

Honestly i agree with some of the mothers that commented on your question you discriminate against young mothers.



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mystikal
January 2009 | mystikal
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Your age doesn't determine whether you will be a good mother or not and if you have a solid foundation (getting married soon with someone you love) I don't see why it wouldn't be a good idea if both you and your partner were feeling ready.

I'm glad you have a career but that doesn't make you anymore important than the mum's here who need centrelink payments to bring their children up sufficiently and to put food on the table.

I'm going to skip my personal opinions on abortion and remind you that you could be entitled to payments while you're on maturnity leave. You may also recieve Family Tax Benefit even if you do have a career. Don't shun the help, when you have a baby you will realise that you need all the extra money and help you need.

And some of these "centerlink blodging mums" are some of the best mothers I've ever heard about. Just be careful, because while a career is awarding in some ways, what are you giving up with your child while you're out chasing your dreams?

My advice would be to chase your dreams first and have a baby when you're ready to sacrifice a little time. It's not a puppy dog, where you can leave it in the backyard with a bucket of water until you get home from work. I understand some mothers need or choose to have careers but many at least take their maternity leave to raise and bond with their children before they go back.

You have your own reasons for your user name but I hope you know you have upset a lot of people.

 



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my4ferals
January 2009 | my4ferals
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I think you should really wait and grow up abit love. Youve upset alot of mothers and myself aswell. As far as Im concerned your not ready for a child your tooooo selfish and if you really wanted a baby why have 2 abortions. Id feel sorry for your child if you had one.. Whats with the username?????? You really are nasty..........



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winja
January 2009 | winja
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personally i think you need to delete this account and choose a different name then come back and ask the STUPID BLUDGING MUMS for some advice. right now i doubt many people are going to be understanding of you because you have gone out of your way to be rude and judgemnteal to people yopu want to ask for help from.

grow up and learn some tact then think about having a baby.



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      my4ferals
January 2009 | my4ferals
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Here Here winja Im with you on this one.



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Rhadika
January 2009 | Rhadika
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First demonikangels, not every parent gets money off centrelink, yes I did when I first had my son but then my partner got a new job and a massive payrise and we are no longer eligable for support as a result even though we have moments where we struggle financially. If we have another baby we won't be eligable for the baby bonus either as now that is income tested too. The only support we get is some help with daycare and that is only because I am a volunteer at a clinic while he is in daycare.

Secondly Stupidblodging mums, I am in agreeance with you to a degree, I agree it is wrong for a woman to simply have children just so she can get money off the government and not have to work as a result. It is totally condradictory as being a parent is the hardest job any person can have regardless of age, but if you are mature enough to handle it, it is also the most rewarding job you can have. You need to dig down deep and be absolutely certain that you are ready physically emotionally financially etc and be prepared to sacrifice the life you have now as when you have children, they should become your number one priiorty. No time for partying like you can now, you may loose friends as they can be scared off by you having a baby, your partner also needs to be prepared to do the same.

As for the abortions well if they were simply a form of contraception which once again is contradictory as contraception is prevention I am disgusted and I don't care if I get in trouble for saying so either but if for medical reasons I am very sorry you've had to go through that. Having had 2 miscarriages one very very recently and even prior to those I have been of the opinion that if you do the deed you do the time so to speak, if you can't do that then there are other options which should be considered. There are many women and familys waiting to be that cannot concieve or do and for one reason or another can not carry a baby and abortion is taking the privelage of pregnancy forgranted. Not to mention it can also increase your own risk of miscarriage in future pregnancies if able to concieve. Abortion will scar your uterus and make it harder for an embryo to attach thus achieving pregnancy.

I seriously think you and your partner need to sit and discuss this either between yourselves or even with a counsellor present as it is a lifelong committment and I think your previous abortions may be clouding your judgement at present.



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      demonikangels
January 2009 | demonikangels
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Excuse me but I am not the one that says you get it off centrelink. The payments I was referring to was the FTB money, someone further down mentioned everyone gets centrelink.
And as long as you are making less than $150,000 you do get an FTB payment and I highly doubt as she is 19 that her and her partner are making that sort of money.
The new income test is to $60,000 per 6 months, so I think if someone is making that sort of money they dont need financial assistance!!



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           Rhadika
January 2009 | Rhadika
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FTB is sorted through both centrelink and the ato and no I don't get that either and my partner does not earn      $150 000 a yr. We are single income with a mortgage and I am a student as of this yr and there is absolutley no assisstance for us what so ever other than the day care which is still expensive enough on top of travel and fees and books plus my partners travel. Not to mention his Hecs fees and he has another fee which is automatically deducted from his pay on top of the tax they take out.

As for the new income test I believe it also is based upon the size of the family as $60 000 is going to go alot further in a family of 3 than it will in a family of 6.

I was not having a go at you I was simply stating that not every family recieves assistance off either centrelink or the ATO.



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      Rhadika
January 2009 | Rhadika
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Oh and the other thing that indicates to me that you may not be ready for a baby is your concern for what others may think. If you are truely ready and want a baby, other peoples opinions will be completely irrelevent.



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nabutters
January 2009 | nabutters
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i am very offended with your name and question. I had a baby at the age of 18 and his dad wasnt around at the time which forced me to go on centrelink payments. I had NO choice at the time and just because i was recieving those payments doesnt make me a CENTRELINK BLODGING MUM!!! I think its rude how you have put that. I dont like commenting to offensive blogs or questions but this one got to me. My boy celebrated his 18th birthday yesterday and i have 4 kids all up now, my last one being nearly 2 yrs old and i dont work and  i recieve payments from centrelink now so i can raise my daughter, at home, without putting her in ,while my husband works very hard for me to afford to be with her.My recomended advice is to grow up and consider other peoples feelings before you say something so harsh.......

naomi



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soozntone
January 2009 | soozntone
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Perhaps the mere fact that you are concerned about how you will be perceived is answer enough that you are not ready.  No matter what age you choose to have a child there will be others that view your decision as the wrong one.  Your partner and you should choose to have a child when both of you are ready, financially and emotionally.  Not when you feel it will be acceptable to others.



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demonikangels
January 2009 | demonikangels
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You dont need to be rediculous, people dont look at 19 as being too young, alot of people dont even consider 19 as being a teen parent these days. Especially with the 13 and 14 year old out their having babies of their own.

As for the not wanting to be on centrelink, you will get money from the government if your working or not so you need to do your research on that abit more. You also need to remember it doesnt matter how good your career is at the moment, having a child changes things and you wont be working straight away I would assume so what you do with your life now is basically irrelevant. I do respect that your in a relationship and plan to wed though, its good to have already thought that far though.

I am a 19 year old and and I have 1 on the way and I study. Im on centrelink payments and I dont think that its fair to assume that all those people on centrelink are just out their bludging the system.




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sharnamathewson
January 2009 | sharnamathewson
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I too have had abortitions and once I got engaged I fet that I wanted a baby because I felt I was older and more mature (24 at time of birth) then at the age of my abortion which was 19.  I am not saying that you aren't mature but I still wanted to have fun at that time in my life. 

My now husband and I feel pregnant and were due to have our  first child 2 days after our wedding so that was bought froward as I wanted to be married (my personal choice).

We are a happy family and our daughter is so special we wouldn't change a thing, except for maybe waited 12 months until we bought our house but thats another story.

Just make sure you have a baby because your ready not because you feel guilty for aborting 2 time previously because that not the right reason.



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Rukia
January 2009 | Rukia
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I was engaged and pregnant at 19 (we rushed the wedding so I wasnt a very pregnant bride adn i didnt want to be unwed and a mum)

I think if your partner thinks its ok aswell, go for it. dont care about what other ppl say.



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Lissi
January 2009 | Lissi
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Hi,

I really find it offensive for you to refer to parents who recieve centerlink payments as stupid blodging mums!!!.. I became a mother at 19 myself and I did come across people who looked down upon me , most of them had never experienced being young, alone, and pregnant.. My partner works full-time, and I work hard to raise my 6 children and help him with his 3 children (combined we have 9).. Its called being a full time parent, its recognised as one of the most important jobs one can have and I would hate to see women rushing  to put their children into daycare and try holding down full time jobs, simply because of people ridiculing them for their choice to be a full time parent! I dont see anything wrong with a parent working and raising children if they feel that is the lifestyle for them and i think its a hard job doing both that and coming home to children who need you also... Whatever your lifestyle, I believe we all have the right to some respect and I am quite shocked that a parent website would pass through the name you have chosen to call yourself also!!

I find that you obviously lack the maturity and compassion needed for the job right now and perhaps should wait to have a family .. or even to allow yourself to be sexually active until you have the ability to be an understanding, compassionate, thoughtful parent.. Sorry to sound harsh but i think you have stirred up a few women in here with such disrespect and lack of knowledge.

From Mel



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      soozntone
January 2009 | soozntone
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I too am a stay at home mother and am not in the least annoyed or offended by 'stupidblodgingmums' post.  We all have to recognise that there are those on centrelink payments simply because they do not want to work, not due to their desire to look after their children.

I would hope that 'Stupidblodgingmums' was not saying all parents that stay home to look after their children are 'blodgers'  I would like to believe she was simply putting context into her desire to have a child and quantifying that her need to have a child does not stem from the wish to not have to work.

I do agree with you thought that 'stupidblodgingmums' is perhaps not the best name to have called herself and perhaps she may look at changing it if this is possible on Minti.



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           Lissi
January 2009 | Lissi
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For the record.. I am not offended or annoyed by her question, I would even consider myself pro-choice with abortion issues and have many friends who did this with good reasons, and considering the mutilation and barbaric ways women would resort to in the old days to avoid the stigma of it, having this done in a controlled environment where the patients health is observed and important is much better than some backyard job (lets face it people, even if it wasnt legal, some women would resort to all sorts of horrible stuff to do it either way!).. And it  is the same stigma associated with that, as in the generalisation that all women who are on centrelink payments must be bludgers.. the truth is, even if those women chose not to work to gain the benifit.. unless they are infact neglecting their children (in which case is a case of abuse and neglect and not bludging) the job that they are doing is a most important one..when their child turns school age they are required to go to work anyways to be eligable to recieve any benifits for their children anyway! The term itself is both insensitive and completely un called for as would be if i was to generalise anyone elses situation on here without having knowledge of the reasons for it!  people who are on benifits 'simply because they do not want to work'  are entitled to do that, my take on that would be that if you are a parent, you ARE working hard to raise tomorrows adults! and no one should tell you any different! they do this for any reason , from mental illness, to high stress levels, post natal issues etc for some..taking on a full time job at the same time is just too much! Reguardless of the context you read it in, its still a generalisation i would be unlikely to make with anyone personally, and the stigma associated with mums that just want to be mums until their children go off to school, should be removed completely from the context of any conversation!



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josierm
January 2009 | josierm
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i wanted a baby at a young age, although i waited until i was established in my career and married and living in our own house.  my mum had me when she was 19 and she is the best mum a daughter could ever ask for.  i don't think its your numeric age that counts, rather your emotional maturity and life experience.  If you are mature enough to consider everything that goes along with having a baby- lower income, sleepless nights, future planning, difficulties returing to work, childcare, the effect on your relationship, the list goes on and on and on.  Having a baby is no walk in the park- its not just about cute and cuddles- its about raising a well adjusted child into a well functiong adult- are you ready for that level of responsibility.   all you have to do is look at minti to see the difficulties in raising a child well.  some 19 year olds are ready, some are not.  how does your partner feel about having a child.  a baby changes the dynamics of a relationship and sometimes newlyweds like to have an opportunity to just be newlyweds, before the focus changes.  how does your family feel about this- as they may be the ones who step in to help if you have issues.  i can understand you may have grief and guilt over your previous abortions, and perhaps there may be another way you could deal with this, such as counselling, before you try to fill that void with a new life.  in the end, the decision is your as to whether you are ready or not- but consider all the aspects of having a baby before you jump into it.



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      josierm
January 2009 | josierm
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maybe you could ask some other young mums out there about the self sacrifice and resposibility.  you could ask to sit in on a young mums parenting group to hear about the potential issues.



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           Ravenheart
January 2009 | Ravenheart
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totally agree, having a baby at 16, I can tell you right now its very ahrd work. the sleepless nights are the worst and sometimes the baby will just cry for no reason or a reason you cant work out and that too gets under your skin when you have had no sleep. you dont get to go out parting at nights with your friends, you whole life will be turned upside down, and if your not ready for it to happen it can be really hard, on the flip side if your are ready all these hard things wont matter because you will just love your baby so much that all the extra work that comes with it wont seem like a bad thing!

xoxo



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                josierm
January 2009 | josierm
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thats the point i was trying to make- but you said it so much better . xx



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libbylincoln
January 2009 | libbylincoln
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hi i had my first baby at aged 19 i was a centrelink mum at first but sometimes you need some help to get on your feet.i did not have a choice back then as i did not have any help or family .do you?getting rid of a baby just becauase you dont want to e on the dole is not a good enough reason .

is the father involved? maybe he could go to work nd ayou stay home ?or you go to work and he stays with the baby .or if you have family that could help maybe the baby could stay wth them while your working or studying .

many of us have done both and you can to .

yes you are young but if you were old enough to be sexually active your old enough to be a mother.

plus as you grow older you will learn that being young just shows you how to cope for wehn you are older .just be sure not to be afraid to ask for help when you need it .i did not have that option.and if you have any odd feelings go to a doctor many gorls your age get depression.



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Ravenheart
January 2009 | Ravenheart
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When you have a baby you will recieve money from centerlink where you have a job or not!

I find your name and your question disturbing  

Might be best if you dont have a baby for now.



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      Stupidblodgingmums
January 2009 | Stupidblodgingmums
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Soz about the name, was a little aggrevated today.



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      libbylincoln
January 2009 | libbylincoln
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i do agree with you ravenheart the name is disturbing .and its scary to think you already had 2 abortions .did you not feel any remorse ? maybe i shoud show you what they do to babys during an abortion.i dont mean to come down on you but if you dont want to be on centrelink payments and you want a job first why did you ahve sex ?if you got pregnant 2 times already it tells me your a very lucky person to be able to achive what many of us cannot but if you fall pregnant that easy maybe staying away from boys until your ready for a baby could be an option.or have de-provera or the pill,condoms ,and if you dont want the baby maybe adoption instead could also be an option or give it to human services till you can get settled they are there to help.please really think about it and dont get rid of this baby.they are after all human



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           Stupidblodgingmums
January 2009 | Stupidblodgingmums
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I do understand what they do with the babies, dont worry, Im not a crazy person that has no feelings, i was 16 the first time, and didnt really have a choice in my abortion, my parents found out and drove me to the clinic without my consent, dont worry I hate them for it. The second time was with my current partner. He wasnt "ready". I dont want to wait forever as Ive heard young people recover from birth easier. Is that true? Lying in limbo, know what I want, and than weighing up what society wants:S



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                josierm
January 2009 | josierm
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you shouldn't hate your parents.  They were the adults in that situation and you were the child- i am sure they were only trying to do what was best for you in such a difficult situation (i know you may argue that you got pregnant so you were not a child at 16- but it is known that a person does not reach the reasoning, foresight and adult maturity until the age of early 20s).  having a baby is not necessarily about what you want either- its about knowing that you will be good and ready for tackling such a difficult and important job and that you are the best person for that job.  as for recovering quickly as a young mum, young can be considered anything under the age of 35 when having a baby.  if you are too young- there may actually be more complications as the mums body is still trying to grow itself, as well as the life of a new person.



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           josierm
January 2009 | josierm
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i interpreted this question as she wants to have a baby and not already pregnant?



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                Ravenheart
January 2009 | Ravenheart
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Yes, she isnt pregnant, she wants to be.



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