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I am going to say something you never thought about.What happens if your little bundle of joy turns out to be a "special needs" bundle of joy, will you be able to cope do you have support and help if you need it, will the father stick around if baby is "special"?
Many years ago my brother was dating a girl who was desperate to keep him so thought to have his baby. Although I am not saying this is you I asked her about medications and family medical problems and the news was not great. I asked her what would happen if she had a handicapped baby but all she could see was this beutiful baby all healthy and perfect. I decided to ask people I knew about risks and the news was not great for her but again she had stars in her eyes. I now have a "special needs" child of my own and although I love her wholeheartedly she is still a right handful and I have no help, support or life of my own.
Talk to your partner about a baby, talk to your doctor and get all the tests you need (rubella,hep b+c, hiv/aids etc) that way if you need any shots or medical treatment then you can ahve them before you fall pregnant.. Find out about the medical history on both sides (cancer, biological conditions, diabetes, depression) speak to your families about your decision and guage whether they will be there to support you should things not go as planned. Get all the information about birth and pregnancy you can then make your decision based around your findings and not the stars in your eyes. A baby is not a toy and is very hard work, they are not minuture adults they need you to do everything for them and cant tell you what they need. Perhaps you should also look into a pre-parenting course as well to help the research.
Not all parents on Centrelink are bludgers, some like me are in need of it to look after our children and others have their own stories. Admittedly a lot of people have a baby for the money but not everyone is like that.
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Your age doesn't determine whether you will be a good mother or not and if you have a solid foundation (getting married soon with someone you love) I don't see why it wouldn't be a good idea if both you and your partner were feeling ready.
I'm glad you have a career but that doesn't make you anymore important than the mum's here who need centrelink payments to bring their children up sufficiently and to put food on the table.
I'm going to skip my personal opinions on abortion and remind you that you could be entitled to payments while you're on maturnity leave. You may also recieve Family Tax Benefit even if you do have a career. Don't shun the help, when you have a baby you will realise that you need all the extra money and help you need.
And some of these "centerlink blodging mums" are some of the best mothers I've ever heard about. Just be careful, because while a career is awarding in some ways, what are you giving up with your child while you're out chasing your dreams?
My advice would be to chase your dreams first and have a baby when you're ready to sacrifice a little time. It's not a puppy dog, where you can leave it in the backyard with a bucket of water until you get home from work. I understand some mothers need or choose to have careers but many at least take their maternity leave to raise and bond with their children before they go back.
You have your own reasons for your user name but I hope you know you have upset a lot of people.
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First demonikangels, not every parent gets money off centrelink, yes I did when I first had my son but then my partner got a new job and a massive payrise and we are no longer eligable for support as a result even though we have moments where we struggle financially. If we have another baby we won't be eligable for the baby bonus either as now that is income tested too. The only support we get is some help with daycare and that is only because I am a volunteer at a clinic while he is in daycare.
Secondly Stupidblodging mums, I am in agreeance with you to a degree, I agree it is wrong for a woman to simply have children just so she can get money off the government and not have to work as a result. It is totally condradictory as being a parent is the hardest job any person can have regardless of age, but if you are mature enough to handle it, it is also the most rewarding job you can have. You need to dig down deep and be absolutely certain that you are ready physically emotionally financially etc and be prepared to sacrifice the life you have now as when you have children, they should become your number one priiorty. No time for partying like you can now, you may loose friends as they can be scared off by you having a baby, your partner also needs to be prepared to do the same.
As for the abortions well if they were simply a form of contraception which once again is contradictory as contraception is prevention I am disgusted and I don't care if I get in trouble for saying so either but if for medical reasons I am very sorry you've had to go through that. Having had 2 miscarriages one very very recently and even prior to those I have been of the opinion that if you do the deed you do the time so to speak, if you can't do that then there are other options which should be considered. There are many women and familys waiting to be that cannot concieve or do and for one reason or another can not carry a baby and abortion is taking the privelage of pregnancy forgranted. Not to mention it can also increase your own risk of miscarriage in future pregnancies if able to concieve. Abortion will scar your uterus and make it harder for an embryo to attach thus achieving pregnancy.
I seriously think you and your partner need to sit and discuss this either between yourselves or even with a counsellor present as it is a lifelong committment and I think your previous abortions may be clouding your judgement at present.
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Hi,
I really find it offensive for you to refer to parents who recieve centerlink payments as stupid blodging mums!!!.. I became a mother at 19 myself and I did come across people who looked down upon me , most of them had never experienced being young, alone, and pregnant.. My partner works full-time, and I work hard to raise my 6 children and help him with his 3 children (combined we have 9).. Its called being a full time parent, its recognised as one of the most important jobs one can have and I would hate to see women rushing to put their children into daycare and try holding down full time jobs, simply because of people ridiculing them for their choice to be a full time parent! I dont see anything wrong with a parent working and raising children if they feel that is the lifestyle for them and i think its a hard job doing both that and coming home to children who need you also... Whatever your lifestyle, I believe we all have the right to some respect and I am quite shocked that a parent website would pass through the name you have chosen to call yourself also!!
I find that you obviously lack the maturity and compassion needed for the job right now and perhaps should wait to have a family .. or even to allow yourself to be sexually active until you have the ability to be an understanding, compassionate, thoughtful parent.. Sorry to sound harsh but i think you have stirred up a few women in here with such disrespect and lack of knowledge.
From Mel
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For the record.. I am not offended or annoyed by her question, I would even consider myself pro-choice with abortion issues and have many friends who did this with good reasons, and considering the mutilation and barbaric ways women would resort to in the old days to avoid the stigma of it, having this done in a controlled environment where the patients health is observed and important is much better than some backyard job (lets face it people, even if it wasnt legal, some women would resort to all sorts of horrible stuff to do it either way!).. And it is the same stigma associated with that, as in the generalisation that all women who are on centrelink payments must be bludgers.. the truth is, even if those women chose not to work to gain the benifit.. unless they are infact neglecting their children (in which case is a case of abuse and neglect and not bludging) the job that they are doing is a most important one..when their child turns school age they are required to go to work anyways to be eligable to recieve any benifits for their children anyway! The term itself is both insensitive and completely un called for as would be if i was to generalise anyone elses situation on here without having knowledge of the reasons for it! people who are on benifits 'simply because they do not want to work' are entitled to do that, my take on that would be that if you are a parent, you ARE working hard to raise tomorrows adults! and no one should tell you any different! they do this for any reason , from mental illness, to high stress levels, post natal issues etc for some..taking on a full time job at the same time is just too much! Reguardless of the context you read it in, its still a generalisation i would be unlikely to make with anyone personally, and the stigma associated with mums that just want to be mums until their children go off to school, should be removed completely from the context of any conversation!
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i wanted a baby at a young age, although i waited until i was established in my career and married and living in our own house. my mum had me when she was 19 and she is the best mum a daughter could ever ask for. i don't think its your numeric age that counts, rather your emotional maturity and life experience. If you are mature enough to consider everything that goes along with having a baby- lower income, sleepless nights, future planning, difficulties returing to work, childcare, the effect on your relationship, the list goes on and on and on. Having a baby is no walk in the park- its not just about cute and cuddles- its about raising a well adjusted child into a well functiong adult- are you ready for that level of responsibility. all you have to do is look at minti to see the difficulties in raising a child well. some 19 year olds are ready, some are not. how does your partner feel about having a child. a baby changes the dynamics of a relationship and sometimes newlyweds like to have an opportunity to just be newlyweds, before the focus changes. how does your family feel about this- as they may be the ones who step in to help if you have issues. i can understand you may have grief and guilt over your previous abortions, and perhaps there may be another way you could deal with this, such as counselling, before you try to fill that void with a new life. in the end, the decision is your as to whether you are ready or not- but consider all the aspects of having a baby before you jump into it.
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