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proudmumof2
proudmumof2 | March 2009

should i say something?

hi all, i have been friends with this girl for about 10 years now and have known that she has some problems (shes a pathalogical liar) i distanced myself from her after i fell pregnant with my 1st baby as she wasn't very supportive at the time. we have been pretty good friends most of the time but in the last 3 years we grew closer as i was there to support her after she had her daughter.

heres the thing, i know when shes lying to me and i used to brush it off as it was just pathetic little lies and although i know shes lying it just never phased me as i had accepted that it was her way, but now things have become really bad, shes made up that she was pregnant with twins, she tells me shes 6 weeks then the next week she says she lost one but she discharged herself, then we were meant to meet up a week later and she says she lost the other one and had to go into labor by the way not the first time shes done it, but worst of all tonight she messages me and tells me the reason why she didnt turn up at my sons bday party was because she just got told the same day she confirmed everything was ok that she has stage one breast cancer.

i feel bad, i dont want to believe that shes that bad that she'd lie about these things, i haven't any proof either way but it all smells fishy and i feel terrible for feeling like this. what do you guys think? do you think shes just bulls***ing?i dont know anymore.



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winja
March 2009 | winja
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so you know the chick who lives up the street from me? lol

ditch her hun shes not worth your time.



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abby26
March 2009 | abby26
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If you know that she is lying- discontinue her friendship. You don't need to have negative friends in your life! Its too draining to deal with people like this as they cant be trusted!



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erinlarsen
March 2009 | erinlarsen
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hi!

been there done that! i totally agree with the others on this! run for the hills! you know something isnt right so dont put up with it! she will slowly start to pick up pace the more you tolerate her lies! sounds like she is trying to hold you close by getting the sympathy vote dont be angry with her as this could trigger more serious behaviour just start to back off bit by bit, o.k if you love her to bits and you dont want to lose her then start putting her in her place even the little lies come down on her for it get her help! but i would bbe running! there are so many of us out there that want a good friend who would be blessed to have you!



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Kiwioz
March 2009 | Kiwioz
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Hi and all this information everyones giving you is just great. Thought I would add my own experience to sos you know your not alone as others have mentioned also.

 I have/had a friend who has a similar problem and a bit like a hypochondriac who continually goes to the doctor people who lie basicallly have to have the attention on themselves in order to 'feel important' and if its not one thing, its another and so on and so on.  I found by distancing myself from her she just found someone else to lie to.  These types of people will not usually be put off by others ignoring them as they just find someone else to get the pity/attention they need in order for them to continue lying.  And yes as someone mentioned she could be narcissistic and or a compulsive liar. Usually these are combined with depression or a persoanality disorder.

It is unfortunate but one day when she does cry wolf and no-one listens she will maybe understand why she has actually no true friends.  Its a shame really because there is no real way to find out if she is telling the truth but mark my words when one day she really is sick, no-one will come calling unless she has made by that time another so-called friend who will in due time leave her to.  She will have to hit rock bottom before she admits to having a problem in order to get help as it is treatable.  Compulsive lying is hard to deal with, not for her but for those around her, and unfortunatly alienating the people around herself is the downside to which she obviously does not care or understand about.  You may even find out later that she actually believes her own lies, only by her hitting rock bottom and getting treatment will she find out the way to recovery and why she does what she does.

Its up to you if you want to remain friends with her or back away. 

Myself I would say to my friend, I cant be bothered with anything negative and dont want to hear about your illnesses, life is short, talk positive and happy thoughts or buggar off, Im not feeling well enough to cope today.  It worked and she didnt come calling as often.  I dont see her much anymore lol.  Im not a confronational person but honestly cant deal with negative people who  drag me down.

Think of yourself and your own 'happinesss', if you can take her type of personality/lies etc then ok, if not, back away, lifes to short for negativity and think of yourself and your child.

Best of Luck darls and BE HAPPY



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tdg1973
March 2009 | tdg1973
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She sounds very narcisistic and maybe even a sociopath.  She will use you and toss you aside as often as she can.  If you are very attatched to her and want to help; call the Crisis Assesment Team (CAT) they are attatched to each council I think. Otherwise, just walk away and have nothing further to do with her



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renaer
March 2009 | renaer
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hi, i really think your friend has some serious problems, but i don't think you will be able to help her. she sounds a lot like my mother who has just been diagnosed with split personality and depression, only after driving me crazy for the last 16 years and having to move states to put an end to it!  you really need to walk away from her and you shouldn't feel bad doing so, she really needs to find some professional help. does she have family, are they aware of her lies?



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blue-raven
March 2009 | blue-raven
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She clearly has some psychological issues and deep underlying problems, probably steming from her childhood. I had a friend who is exactly like this. I still see her around but I try not to get into a conversation with her because I know its nothing but lies. My ex friend has told alot of the lies your friend has. "I miscarried a twin but the other survived" , "my kid suffers from this allergy or from autism" but shes never specific and she never knows how to treat it correctly. I couldn't take it anymore and I stop talking to her. It does wear a bit thin after awhile and seems that you've had enough. You could confront her and tell her in kind way that your tired of the lies and you want her to get professional help. ( Often they want to get caught out. They want help but don't know how to say they do.) The worst that will happen is that she'll get mad and stop talking to you. I never had the courage to confront my friend. Maybe she would've changed if I had. Otherwise you could just gradually distance yourself from her. I hope my experience helps you.



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livsmum
March 2009 | livsmum
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I knew someone like this, but was like you and just accepted i because 'at least I was aware of it'.   We used to probe her in situations like this until she got uncomfortable and would eventually calm down for a while, then the lies wuld start again.  I guess it depends how smart a liar she is, ask her a million questions about the disease & how it will effect her family etc.  Then tell her you are coming to the docs with her to learn how to help you through - no buts or that you think you should go with her for support at losing her babies.  She'll stop lying for a bit.  People like this though, can sometimes turn back on you so just be careful.  It depends how bad she really is I guess.  People like that are better left on the other side of the fence.  Hope that helped!



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soozeq
March 2009 | soozeq
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HI Darlin'

I think she's pulling your chain, Breast cancer! what a terrible thing to lie about. I'm sure you're sympathies could be well used elsewhere and if it turns out she does have the big 'C' ie: when you see documented proof, then say you're sorry & don't  have anything more to do with her.

Try this: ask her if you can have a look at the confirmation letter from the Specialist, say you have never seen one before (that's just a little fib) & see what she says, if she gives you an excuse then you have your answer!!

There are heaps of really good friends out there for you, please take this advice from someone who knows.I'm 60 & have seen a few come & go. Like my best friend in the world, who I was closer to than my sisters. She was having it off with several men but would never have it off with my hubby because we were friends, yep, you guessed it!! She did it 'coz he had such a great body!! GRRRRRRRRRR!!!! That was many years ago & he's now onto wife No.3!!!

All the very best

Suezq

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littlelaydee
March 2009 | littlelaydee
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Sounds like she doesn't want to see you for whatever reason... but if these lies are to get out of a social engagement then I think she has a bit of a problem! If she has breast cancer you would soon see the symptoms of chemo or surgery, I would think? Then you would know whether she's lying or not. And if she is, I would tell her to get help and distance myself.



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josierm
March 2009 | josierm
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wow, this sounds like a high-maintenance friend (to put it nicely).  I think she sounds like way too much stress and effort to be bothered with.  If you really want to keep this friendship, obviously accusing her of lying about breast cancer isn't going to go down well, but you don't want to be taken in for a sucker either.  Tell her you want to support her and be there for her but you are finding it difficult because of her history with dramatic stories.  Remind her that true friends don't lie to each other and encourage her to confide the truth without being judged.  If it turns out after all this that it is a lie but she has continued to play the sick role- it might be time to terminate the friendship- whats a friendship without trust, truth and confidence?  If she is sick, you have still offered your support.  All I can say is good luck, whatever you decide, because this has the potential to not end up very pretty.




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mystikal
March 2009 | mystikal
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I do know someone who was a pathological liar. With the right professional help, they can improve. It took 3-4 years of counselling to get to this point though and to pin-point the trigger and what caused it etc In order to even get to the counselling stage it was a very frustrating thing to go through pointing out the lies, and backing that person in to a corner so all evidence proved they were lying and they had nothing to fall back on. I don't even know if that's the right thing to do but it worked. They had to admit that they had a lying problem before they could get help.

Personally if you don't want to go through all of this and don't think it's worth the hassle I would continue to be her friend but just take what she says with a grain of salt unless you see it with your own two eyes. Some people know that they are doing it and for others it is so habitual that they don't even realize they're doing it and sometimes believe their own lies.

If it ever puts you in uncomfortable situations or dangerous situations, then perhaps it's best to let her go. Sorry I couldn't be much more help to you.



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