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Re: Discipline or abuse?
The mother doesn't believe that she is in the relationship because of the relationship she has had with her father. I could be wrong, but it seems that the relationship with her father is pretty much the same as her relationship with her husband. I don't know what it was like for her growing up, I know her mother had bi polar so maybe it's just her way of dealing with life, I mean to keep everything the same because it's something she is used to, but I know that doesnt make it okay for her daughter, and She needs to be the one to stand up and change it now that she is an adult, as if to not put her daughter through what she went through, whether she turned out okay or not isn't the issue, the issue is her putting her daughter through something that she knows is wrong.
I think I am worried to say the wrong thing and have her shut everyone out rather than hearing it and changing it, so am trying to make sure I tackle it gently, I haven't spoken with her about it, and maybe that's how I should keep it, as if she thinks I don't know and discuss other things until I find the back door. I know it would be a big deal she would be disappointing her entire family, but at the cost of her own daughter?? It's as though she is happy being miserable, but again that isn't her daughters choice and it's up to her to make the right choice, and here I am arguing on here when I should be arguing with her lol...
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Re: Discipline or abuse?
Okay I wasn't specific because I was just looking for advice.
I know it is wrong, but that doesn't make me right.
An old friend of mine has informed me of someone we know, that is allowing her husband to lock their 4yr old daughter in the cupboard, why??? apparently because she is noisey, I mean there was no mention of naughty behaviour, nothing. And I know I do not have the full story, but from the sounds of things it is completely inappropriate.
I do not know what to say to the mother, but if she can't stand up to her husband then how is it worth the suffering of her daughter. Her daughter will not know any better, and it sucks thinking that when she goes to school she will think it is normal until she finds out and then maybe she will hate her mother more for not stopping it rather than her father for doing it, and I really don't think any parent would like to be in that situation, whether it's about being locked in a cupboard or not. It's not about the parent being hated, it's about the affects on the child.
I have a 4yr old son, 2yr old daughter, 10 month old daughter and another on the way. Sure my kids can drive me up the damn wall, but I never wish them gone, I can't even handle putting my son in time out when he has flipped out. Which is where my partner comes in, when I can't deal with them I tell him to deal with them and I go away until I calm down. Then I come back and explain why I left, and re explain why he was sent to time out, so he hears it from me because I started it. SO I was looking for someone to agree with me but also someone to not agree with me, so I had something to think about that I haven't already thought about yet. If anyone could offer some sites, phone numbers, groups that I could pass on. My friend has reported it to docs and came to me asking me what I thought, and I agree with her. I don't think docs are the perfect solution, as I do think the father may hide it as in "happy families".
I am still wondering if there is a way to get it into her head that it's not okay whether she pretends it's a game or not, that it might affect her future and maybe the law side of things will be enough to scare her into reality. The fact that she barely has time alone, or alone with her child means it would be hard for her to get help. She talks with our friend on the phone only to say her husband is coming and hangs up, as if she cant even have a phone call doesn't make much else look good, I have seena few pictures of their child and she looks rather happy, but they were a few seconds in her life, and maybe she isn't bothered by the cupboard thing, but a child only knows what they are taught, until they find out the truth.
Thankyou for the responses that were actually helpful.
I could never do it to my children, or anyone elses, so the thought of someone doing it to their own kills me.
I will keep pushing, thankyou for your support
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And now everyone, myself included, is looking at their answers and wishing they had not made the assumption that it was happening to your child. Sorry hun, but the question was rather blunt, so didn't have the full facts.
It sounds like you yourself are doing a great job, and have a fantastic partner there to help out when it gets too tough. Mine is the wuss of the family! lol, which makes me the mean one! lol.
There have been times when I have been tempted to put them in the car, belted in, with the doors closed and windows open a little, just to make them sit still. For us, it wouldn't work though, as being in the car means going out . But at least then, I'd be able to hand the washing up without them running around (clothes line is under the house where the car is kept).
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