Mum of 2boys - I am so happy for you that you were able to get that point across to your boys.  However, my son (who is an only child) doesn't seem to get the fact that when he lies the punishment is worse.  That is what I can't seem to get through to him on.  When the situation arises (and lately that is alot) I break down the punishment for the initial deed and then tell him that because he lied to me about it the punishment is now XX.  It has not been working for my family.  My husband and I thankfully are a united front, which seems to help some of the times.....but that doesn't mean that he doesn't try to get one of us to be "on his side" to try to get out of the punishment. I know he doesn't want to tell the truth because of the punishment that will follow, but I feel it is a very important lesson for him to learn that it is better to tell the truth!!  Lies only lead to more lies which only lead to alot more trouble down the line....  Thank you for your thought and advice.

August 88 - I know that the fear is the exact reason he continues to lie.  Although many people tell me that it is normal I can't help but wonder how to get this very important message across.  We have made it very clear and a positive (at least I think we do) experience when we know he has told the truth regardless of the fact that we can see the fear on his face.  I'm glad to hear that you have Mr. Nobody, because we have "Herman".   (lol) Let me know if you would like to trade for awhile....  My son has ADHD and I know that this is not helping many situations we encounter but I would really like more positive, happy, unangry, fun times with him.  Thank you for your feedback.